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There's nothing so satisfying as the sound of 12 lbs. hitting the water

I like JJMac's advice better than I do my own

No. I'm a fan of the SBEII. The M2 is a decent gun, but I can't see buying it instead of the SBEII for any reason other saving a few dollars. And if the SBEII is easier to clean than the M2, then logic dictates that the M2 is more difficult to clean than the SBEII.

If he has other guns for turkey hunting, get him the Ultralight or the Legacy for birding. If he is going to use this one for turkeys and other upland birding, get him the SBEII in the black synthetic with 24" barrel. The 3.5" will be great for turkeys, and he can shoot any other length he wants for smaller game. Waterfowlers and clay shooters need longer barrels to help line up longer passing shots, but the 24" will be great for close cover and for turkeys. I wouldn't get him a camo gun for birding. Too easy to lose, and the camo really isn't necessary. The flat black is also fine for turkeys. Never had a problem with one seeing mine. The SBEII is also much easier to clean the M2, because the receiver comes in half with the top half being the barrel extension. This makes cleaning a breeze. I hope he's getting you something as nice as what you're getting him!

Hevi-shot is OK through the tighter chokes. Many turkey hunters use it through extra full turkey chokes with no problems. As Paul said, it tends to pattern better for most through Mod. or wider.

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I have not experienced this problem, but I have had experiences with Benelli's customer service department. They will take care of you. Sorry you're having problems, but I'm glad that you have already taken the proper steps towards getting it resolved.

For those who may not know what a punt gun was used for: From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia A punt gun is a type of extremely large shotgun used in the 19th and 20th centuries for shooting large numbers of waterfowl for commercial harvesting operations. Punt guns were usually custom-designed and so varied widely, but could have bore diameters up to 2 inches. A single shot could kill a whole flock of waterfowl resting on the water's surface. They were too big to hold and the recoil so large that they were mounted directly on the punts used for hunting, hence their name. Hunters would maneuver their punts quietly into line and range of the flock using poles or oars to avoid startling them. To improve efficiency hunters could work in fleets of up to around ten punts. In the United States, this practice depleted stocks of wild waterfowl and by the 1860s most states had banned the practice. The Lacey Act of 1889 banned the transport of wild game across state lines, and the practice of market hunting was outlawed by a series of federal laws in 1918. There are few punt guns remaining. [ 12-12-2006, 03:10 PM: Message edited by: tucker301 ]

The world record for hand-thrown clays had absolutely no bearing on my choosing the SBEII over any other gun. I seriously doubt that anyone practically shoots either gun that quickly or that they need to do so.

Most new Benellis will cycle minimum recommended loads without a hiccup right out of the box. If yours doesn't, then step up to a heavy field load or heavy trap load for about 100 rounds. The recoil will not lighten up. It's a light gun with a recoil-based system. There's nothing but the wieght of the gun and strength of your shoulder to slow it down.

Which chokes did he get? Was the gun new or used? They typically come with 5 tubes. Waterfowl - Primos Dead Zone Turkey - Rhino .660

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SRM = Aftermarket Benelli = OEM Both are stainless steel, but not the same. [ 12-11-2006, 05:18 PM: Message edited by: tucker301 ]

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With proper surface prep., it should be fine. I'd lay on a coat or two of matte clearcoat on top of the paint for added protection.

Not nearly as active today, and we screwed up on the biggest gang of mallards, allowing them to swing around for one more pass......gone. Got a couple of Gadwalls, a Ringneck, and my first ever Shoveler. Getting there a full hour early leaves Leroy some MUCH NEEDED beauty rest time.

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The gun comes with 5 choke tubes. Cylinder Improved Cylinder Modified Improved Modified Full The gun is light and thus kick is substantial, with or without the Comfortech stock. When I shoot paper, I notice the kick quite a bit. When I shoot geese or turkeys, it's of no consequence at all. Some people have trouble cycling light trap loads through the SBEII. In my opinion, they have purchased the wrong gun and the problems are their own fault and not the gun's. The SBEII is a hunter. Other issues have been reported, but I don't believe their rate of occurence is any higher than complaints with other guns. Some people don't hold the gun firmly against their shoulder, and the Inertia system doesn't function properly at times. Others say their guns shoot high, low, left, right or whatever. As I'm sure you're aware, some people simply don't know how to properly mount and shoot a shotgun, and blaming the gun is easier than admitting personal faults.

Catman67, This prior discussion may help you to better understand the 11707. http://www.benelliusa.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=1;t=003053;p=0

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And if there is no box?

Here's a trick I tried yesterday and it works very well. In cold weather, apply antiperspirant to your feet and ankles before putting on your (non-cotton)socks. Your feet stay dry and that's half the battle on keeping them warm.

I use Remington Cordura waders for warm weather and Red Head Bone Dry Neoprenes for cold weather. Cabelas has good stuff too, and their CS is amazing.

Also, Most folks would assume that the boat we dragged up and around the dam was the one with the ducks laid across it. Actually, that one's not ready to go yet, so we used the one directly behind us. it slid well in frozen mud and frosted reeds. Not so well when we hit the gravel dike.