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  1. I noticed the blam4 and your plans to use a QD in it and I am awaiting the results. I am luke warm on the rear Mesa QD as you are, I had one on my full length M4. It works, yes. Best commercial option there is that I know of. Would be happy to see a better custom option. The single switch closing two circuits would, as far as I know, require a relay to do it right. The relay required is called a Single Throw Double Pole, and essentially uses a single pole switch to activate the relay which then closes two circuits at the same time. They are small but you still need to find a place to hide it, I think you could hide it under the hand guards. For a custom switch built into a set of guards, search google for "Surface Mount Tactile Switch" - you will see what the most predominantly used switch mechanisms used in tape style switches. You wire in a bunch of these and any single one that is depressed closes the circuit. Having a row of these built into each side of the guard that can be pressed by the finger or the thumb on either side that activates the systems.... wow. Wouldn't get better than that. The other light mount system I liked on my full length M4 was laser devices, pictures: I liked this for double CR123 Lights or 18650 Lights - SureFire 6P or similar size because it held them in almost touching the firearm arm. Can't get better than that. I used two separate rings rather than the double ring Laser devices sells because it allowed me to adjust each device separately. I chose to go with a smaller single cell light on the SBS to save weight and bulk. Obviously this is a compromise, for run time, etc.
  2. LaserDevices Mag Tube Mounts: *IF* you are using a dual CR123 or single 18650 cell light such as a SureFire 6P or similarly sized light, these mounts are awesome in that they pull the light in to the tightest possible spot. Don't get the dual ring one. Even if you mount to pieces as pictured, use separate laser devices single ring mounts as this allows you to pull each one in tighter.
  3. Trying a picture here: What I do like about this setup for the SBS, is that I have a way to mount both a laser and a very bright (500 Lumens) light about as close in to the firearm as you can possibly get it. If I could change the activation to be a single momentary switch which activated both, I would be even happier with the setup. I would love a custom switch wired into an replacement set of FFT handguards. But this is unlikey as it would require a relay to pull this off. I was disappointed that with the laser and the gearsector mount there wasn't any room left to fit a QD mount on the bottom rail as well.
  4. Yea, it's o.k. And yes any thing that clamps to the firearm that must be removed is going to leave marks over time. I had the same issue with the Laser Devices mag tube mounts. If it gets bad, will have to refinish. What I was trying to post in my original message, which is trapped in review land, was that all mounting options are compromises. Even fully Pic Railed ARs are compromised due to the weight and bulk those systems add. The rail combined with the interface the device requires to attach to that rail, all pushes the device out further from the firearm, etc. We are all literally bolting things on to our firearms. How to best make it look, feel and act like it was designed for that firearm while reducing weight, space, catering to ergonomics, etc. It's all a balance. I am willing to sacrifice the tool-less design for a streamlined setup to keep things light and in close to the firearm. That's just me. I would regret that obviously if I lost access to my tools, so it's a mission specific or philosophical decision for most. Unless we're going to build something custom with the features and the electronics in it we each want with a perfectly suited custom mount, it's a matter of pulling together the various aftermarket pieces in an attempt to see what works. With the laserlyte, for example, i had tried a thorntail mount - and it won't fit so I ended up with the Gear Sector mount.
  5. Solid. Well, here is the text of what I was originally going to post, the pictures removed. Pictures linked above. Sorry: Greetings. Saw this post and another one on mounting options for the Benelli M4 and had flash backs. This is a journey I have taken myself, more than once. Anytime you have to add lights, lasers, etc to a platform, you literally are bolting them on. When you have to bolt things to the outside of your firearm, you are making a sacrifice. If each arm were designed with high quality accessories built in it could be done with much greater efficiency of use of space, protrusions, activation issues, etc. The huge downside to that is the wide variance of needs, etc, so we're not ready for that as a market. Even rail mounted items (and the rails themselves) bother me. So much wasted space in the rail system, but it is a way to mount something in a standard way you would otherwise have to engineer and custom manufacture something for each situation if it otherwise wasn't available. Anyway... M4.. Wish there were better options as well. I am impressed with many of the ideas found here and the custom execution of them. Below are some pictures of what I had come up with. SBS: CANNOT POST PICS, SEE POST ABOVE. There are pros and cons to this. I differ in my goals a bit. I am willing to sacrifice the use of tools to make the final implementation a tighter, smaller package. I loath things sticking out from the platform as much as I can avoid. This is a 500 lumen flashlight. It is single cell so it's light. Run time isn't what a dual cell has, obviously. However, it has an extension to make it dual cell if that is needed. The laser is activated by the tape switch, the flashlight with a thumb on the button. It works well, you basically activate them both with one action the way it's rigged. I wish I had one tape switch which was a Single Pole Double Throw switch so i could activate both units with that one switch. That would make this better IMO. The tri rail requires a tool to remove. Unfortunately I can't use the third rail as the two accessories I have mounted on it prevent use of the third rail. if I could, i would through a QD sling mount on there. Next up, what I had done with a standard length benelli M4 awhile back. PICS LINKED ABOVE, CANT POST PICS YET>
  6. If I could ever post here with a picture, I'd show you two options I like. LaserLyte Triple Rail is a good option when combined with the right light mount. The other one I like is the LaserDevices magtube mount. I've used both with good success, will show you the results as soon as I can do so. Try this for the LaserLyte Triple Rail: i. imgur. com /Lsej39c.jpg i. imgur. com /FTCDtD1.jpg Sorry for the obfuscated links, it won't post anything I put up with pictures or links. This is what can be done with LaserDevices Mag Tube Ring Mounts: i. imgur. com /5BLDhCN.jpg i. imgur. com /UghEiQN.jpg This is a sweet setup if you are going to use a 6P, 6P clone or similarly sized Dual CR123 or 18650 size flashlight. It tucks the flashlight into the space better than any other mount I have seen, in fact there is no room left so it cannot be done better IMO if you're using this size flashlight.
  7. How do I post here with pictures? Everytime I do, the post never shows up?
  8. Greetings. Saw this post and another one on mounting options for the Benelli M4 and had flash backs. This is a journey I have taken myself, more than once. Anytime you have to add lights, lasers, etc to a platform, you literally are bolting them on. When you have to bolt things to the outside of your firearm, you are making a sacrifice. If each arm were designed with high quality accessories built in it could be done with much greater efficiency of use of space, protrusions, activation issues, etc. The huge downside to that is the wide variance of needs, etc, so we're not ready for that as a market. Even rail mounted items (and the rails themselves) bother me. So much wasted space in the rail system, but it is a way to mount something in a standard way you would otherwise have to engineer and custom manufacture something for each situation if it otherwise wasn't available. Anyway... M4.. Wish there were better options as well. I am impressed with many of the ideas found here and the custom execution of them. Below are some pictures of what I had come up with. SBS: There are pros and cons to this. I differ in my goals a bit. I am willing to sacrifice the use of tools to make the final implementation a tighter, smaller package. I loath things sticking out from the platform as much as I can avoid. This is a 500 lumen flashlight. It is single cell so it's light. Run time isn't what a dual cell has, obviously. However, it has an extension to make it dual cell if that is needed. The laser is activated by the tape switch, the flashlight with a thumb on the button. It works well, you basically activate them both with one action the way it's rigged. I wish I had one tape switch which was a Single Pole Double Throw switch so i could activate both units with that one switch. That would make this better IMO. The tri rail requires a tool to remove. Unfortunately I can't use the third rail as the two accessories I have mounted on it prevent use of the third rail. if I could, i would through a QD sling mount on there. Next up, what I had done with a standard length benelli M4 awhile back.
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