mosley128 Posted November 28, 2009 Share Posted November 28, 2009 So I posted a thread a week or so ago, and with the advice of people on this forum, bought my very first shotgun. It's the M4, and I just shot 25 shells through it, and I'm pretty sure it's love at first sight. Anyways, I've never owned/shot a shotgun before, and I've always been taught to clean a gun after each shoot, but the Benelli owner's manual says that it really isn't necessary. I know I can clean the barrel, but is there anything else I should do? Also, I called the sheriff department today and asked about the legality of a collapsible stock or extension tube, and they were far from helpful. I'm sure this has been beaten to death, but are EITHER legal for a Missouri resident? My primary question is regarding the proper cleaning procedures, and any advice would be helpful. Thanks all! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unobtanium Posted November 28, 2009 Share Posted November 28, 2009 So I posted a thread a week or so ago, and with the advice of people on this forum, bought my very first shotgun. It's the M4, and I just shot 25 shells through it, and I'm pretty sure it's love at first sight. Anyways, I've never owned/shot a shotgun before, and I've always been taught to clean a gun after each shoot, but the Benelli owner's manual says that it really isn't necessary. I know I can clean the barrel, but is there anything else I should do? Also, I called the sheriff department today and asked about the legality of a collapsible stock or extension tube, and they were far from helpful. I'm sure this has been beaten to death, but are EITHER legal for a Missouri resident? My primary question is regarding the proper cleaning procedures, and any advice would be helpful. Thanks all! Clean the M4 the same way you would an AR15 basically. The only difference is in how you clean the barrel, and that you must clean the choke/threads as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heckler&kochp2000 Posted November 28, 2009 Share Posted November 28, 2009 I have the Collapsible stock for the M4 For Sale if you are interested in one , I believe it is legal in Missouri So you should'nt have a problem . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sukhoi_fan Posted November 28, 2009 Share Posted November 28, 2009 (edited) You've *got* to keep the M4 bolt carrier group well lubed including the recoil link pin at the rear of the bolt carrier (however do NOT lube the pistons) or else suffer the consequences later. I always generously lube mine before I shoot it. As for the 'legality' of the collapsible stock, there's a lot of debate about that and it's *not* an issue until it becomes one at some time in the future. The law is on the books and if it weren't then Benelli would be making those collapsible stocks available to us lowly 'civilians', and as it stands now Benelli will ONLY make the collapsible stocks available to bona fide 'law enforcement agencies'. Definitely a gray area without the imported parts count at 10 or less items so precede at your own risk. Edited November 28, 2009 by Sukhoi_fan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unobtanium Posted November 28, 2009 Share Posted November 28, 2009 You've *got* to keep the M4 bolt carrier group well lubed including the recoil link pin at the rear of the bolt carrier (however do NOT lube the pistons) or else suffer the consequences later. I always generously lube mine before I shoot it. As for the 'legality' of the collapsible stock, there's a lot of debate about that and it's *not* an issue until it becomes one at some time in the future. The law is on the books and if it weren't then Benelli would be making those collapsible stocks available to us lowly 'civilians', and as it stands now Benelli will ONLY make the collapsible stocks available to bona fide 'law enforcement agencies'. Definitely a gray area without the imported parts count at 10 or less items so precede at your own risk. The only thing I found that happens when you lube the pistons is some oil gets blown all over the place and it smokes for a few shots. It's not critical NOT to do it, just no sense in it really. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sukhoi_fan Posted November 28, 2009 Share Posted November 28, 2009 The only thing I found that happens when you lube the pistons is some oil gets blown all over the place and it smokes for a few shots. It's not critical NOT to do it, just no sense in it really. Lubing the pistons will result in a load of carbon burned onto the pistons which is a bit*h to clean, so that's why I suggested NOT to do so, for the same reason one shouldn't lube the gas piston in an AK, FAL, or any other gas piston operated semi-auto. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unobtanium Posted November 28, 2009 Share Posted November 28, 2009 Lubing the pistons will result in a load of carbon burned onto the pistons which is a bit*h to clean, so that's why I suggested NOT to do so, for the same reason one shouldn't lube the gas piston in an AK, FAL, or any other gas piston operated semi-auto. I suppose, but I clean the snot out of my stuff anyways. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mosley128 Posted November 28, 2009 Author Share Posted November 28, 2009 Thank you all for the advice, I cleaned mine after downloading a manual for it online. Regarding the pistons: They are the silver pieces on the tip of the bolt carrier, am I correct? The part that you can depress with your finger, and it pops back? My last question: The strap loop that you put a carrying strap through towards the tip of the weapon LOOKS like you can move it ninety degrees either way (to place the strap on either side of the weapon) but I have been unable will all my messing with it to do so. Any help there? Again, thank you for all the help thus far, it's greatly appreciated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zee10103 Posted November 28, 2009 Share Posted November 28, 2009 That is the Bolt. It is in side the big silver thing that goes back and forth. Bolt Carrier. The pistons are mounted on top of the barrel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangerDanger Posted November 29, 2009 Share Posted November 29, 2009 You need a pair of snap ring plyers to move the front sling mount. Pop off the snap ring, pull the sling mount off and reindex it how you want. The pistons are attached to the barrel assembly. They protrude into the receiver and imping against the front of the bolt carrier. The pistons are free floating. So if you shake the weapon with the bolt locked to the rear, you'll hear and see them sliding back and forth approximately half an inch. I soak my pistons in Hoppes. Then hit it with a wire brush to remove all the carbon buildup. Nothing is then applied. I do not know what type of steel they are, but I have never noticed any rust. I read that they are stainless? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heckler&kochp2000 Posted November 29, 2009 Share Posted November 29, 2009 That is the Bolt. It is in side the big silver thing that goes back and forth. Bolt Carrier. The pistons are mounted on top of the barrel. Here is a few picture of the piston holes and a collapsible stock for sale Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mosley128 Posted November 29, 2009 Author Share Posted November 29, 2009 These are a picture of the pistons, yes? The two protruding metallic pieces on either side of the barrel? I apologize for my ignorance, but the Benelli manual is far from helpful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hookster Posted November 29, 2009 Share Posted November 29, 2009 I apologize for my ignorance, but the Benelli manual is far from helpful. Hi Mosley, Here's a link to the USMC M4 (M1014) manual. It has a lot more info than the Benelli manual. I printed the entire thing and put it in a 3 hole binder. http://www.farrarsodfarm.com/nelli/USMC_M1014.pdf Later, Hookster Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mosley128 Posted November 29, 2009 Author Share Posted November 29, 2009 Holy cow, that is very helpful. Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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