Amsdorf Posted August 25, 2012 Share Posted August 25, 2012 What was it about the shotty that made it not kosher with ATF? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pudmullet Posted August 25, 2012 Author Share Posted August 25, 2012 Don't know exactly. It has to do with the work being done in the US that they're not happy with. They mentioned the mag tube...??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pudmullet Posted August 25, 2012 Author Share Posted August 25, 2012 Benelli will likely make whatever adjustment they need to in the "manufacturing" process to allow them to sell what they have in the pipe line and then be done with the H2O...I'm glad I'm not in a hurry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hookster Posted August 25, 2012 Share Posted August 25, 2012 True, but I think more along the lines of people irritated that the combat shotgun they all really wanted, finally in its true configuration, was limited in quantity and too expensive for most. My guess is quite a few sour grapes were spilled by miffed M4 enthusiasts to the ATF about how this gun could be legal That could well be true... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sukhoi_fan Posted August 25, 2012 Share Posted August 25, 2012 This is all utter nonsense...the 2nd Amendment protection has absolutely nothing to do with 'sporting purposes'. Meanwhile, one can buy a Saiga 12 and as many 20 round drums as they want for it (recall that the USAS shotgun 20 round drums were classified as 'destructive devices' by atf). Swat that camel's nose! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avsmillar Posted March 24, 2013 Share Posted March 24, 2013 I ordered an M4 H20 on March 3, 2012 from my local dealer. In December of 2012 I received a letter from Benelli stating that " . . . we do not have a firm date that this review by BATFE will be completed. They are working with us and we are in line to receive an opinion." Think I they will actually send them out? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pudmullet Posted March 24, 2013 Author Share Posted March 24, 2013 I ordered an M4 H20 on March 3, 2012 from my local dealer. In December of 2012 I received a letter from Benelli stating that " . . . we do not have a firm date that this review by BATFE will be completed. They are working with us and we are in line to receive an opinion." Think I they will actually send them out? Mine has been on order for about the same time period...and paid for. Benelli says that the lawyers are working with the ATF. I suggested that whatever problem the ATF has, replace the item on the gun and offer a rebate based on the warranty registration that will allow you to purchase the original part from Robar, who's coating it with the NP3 and assembling. Who knows what they're going to do. I just picked up a standard M4 and installed the extended tube for something to play with. It's a great gun and allot of fun. We'll see what happens. Good luck! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tango two Posted March 24, 2013 Share Posted March 24, 2013 Early this month I received this reply from Benelli USA: "We are no longer taking orders for these guns but the plan is to try and fill all the existing orders. Currently we do not have a ship date for these. Thanks for your interest." There's hope. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RDA1 Posted March 24, 2013 Share Posted March 24, 2013 Early this month I received this reply from Benelli USA: "We are no longer taking orders for these guns but the plan is to try and fill all the existing orders. Currently we do not have a ship date for these. Thanks for your interest." There's hope. I have spoken a few times to Benelli and my dealer whom I ordered through (I ordered one on January 12, 2012 before SHOT 2012 where they debuted and where my dealer placed his order for them), I have heard the same story. They are still trying to work with the ATF to gain approval and plan to work until they get approval in order to fill the original orders placed early in 2012. Benelli stopped taking orders when they saw they had a challenge with the BATFE. I also saw during 2012 they removed the H2O from the website, they have no intention of making more than what is needed to fill the original orders. I also saw the letters from Benelli as noted above. Is there hope? I believe there is, but not much (i.e., the door is closing, but hasn't slammed shut yet). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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