I to, with my brother had a chance to take our two (2 yr old litter mate springers) out for a romp in the grass for some pheasants. We had 8 put out. the pups put 8 up, we shot 8 and the pups retreived 8. It was a good day however, it is so hot and dry in Ca that we used a 10 oz bottle of "clear eyes" to flush the seeds out of their eyes. I have never done this, this early in the year before. I hope we get some weather to put the seeds on the ground..........Good Hunting........Upland04