Unobtanium
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Looking to purchase: Benelli M4 Entry(14" NFA) model, New on Form 3...
Unobtanium replied to Unobtanium's topic in Benelli
Meh. The way things are heating up, I may snag another Entry, regardless. -
I would put money on it being lead deposits.
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Recommendation for red dot site for Benelli M4 H20
Unobtanium replied to MJSTEIN0753's topic in Benelli
The Chonk of the REIN Micro is well worth it. Battery cannot compress/batter a spring due to the batteryjack, and the 1300 lumens and 50K+ lux is staggeringly superior to the 500 lumen M300C pictured on the left. The weight of the REIN Micro per my scale, with battery, is only 5.9oz. The improvement in ergonomics (tail cap), and massive jump in output as well as the battery retention (especially for a 12ga) far trumps the @2oz weight savings of other options. -
Recommendation for red dot site for Benelli M4 H20
Unobtanium replied to MJSTEIN0753's topic in Benelli
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Looking to purchase: Benelli M4 Entry(14" NFA) model, New on Form 3...
Unobtanium replied to Unobtanium's topic in Benelli
I had called them about that a couple weeks ago, and they said they did not have it. In the mean time, a MAWL soaked up my Benelli M4 discretionary budget. I already have an M4 SBS, just wanted another, but did NOT have a MAWL, so... -
Looking to purchase: Benelli M4 Entry(14" NFA) model, New on Form 3...
Unobtanium replied to Unobtanium's topic in Benelli
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Recommendation for red dot site for Benelli M4 H20
Unobtanium replied to MJSTEIN0753's topic in Benelli
I'd heavily consider the Cloud defensive REIN. The battery Jack is a godsend for a high recoil platform. The tailcap also wont require any fiddling with. Downside is the head diameter equals streamlight hlx. I'll mock one up in a few hours. -
Looking to purchase: Benelli M4 Entry(14" NFA) model, New on Form 3...
Unobtanium replied to Unobtanium's topic in Benelli
Oh, and since you took the time to view this, here is me playing in my yard with the one I currently have. Maybe it will entertain you. -
I just use the OEM handle. It really isn't a drawback. I run the gun like an AK and charge it by rotating it outboard with my strong hand, and reaching under the gun with my support hand and charging it with a couple of hooked fingers (index and middle).
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This is all 100% normal.
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Just what the title says. Any stock configuration is fine. If you are a dealer with one on a Form 3 willing to transfer to my dealer, or you see one in stock online that you're not gonna snag, I'd appreciate the opportunity of a heads up. Thanks! (Not looking to buy on a Form 4, as back to back F4s is just crazy wait time).
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Taran just doubling down, but I'll check out the handles, lol
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Loctite 243 and 20 in-lb should suffice for that juncture. I tried to go light on the IWC mount, and ended up just pushing it to 40 when it walked a hair.
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Good price. If I needed one, I'd buy this.
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Wow...just wow...if only I had kept mine instead of selling it to Toaster, rofl! Hey, supply/demand.
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I checked my views, I don't think anyone watched the damn video, and truthfully it was boring, so here's just raw data: Fiocchi 1560fps 1oz slug Chronographed at 3m from muzzle 14":1358.6 fps /// 1794.8 ft-lb (assuming 438gr slug) 18.5": 1429 fps /// 1985.7ft-lb (assuming 438gr slug) 70.4fps deficit for the 14" barrel. Translates to 190.9 ft-lb (presuming 438gr slug weight, which this slug weighed in at when dissected, although the wad is attached and I did not account for it.) Federal LE12700 1325fps Buckshot Chronographed 3m from the muzzle 14": 1244.6 //// FPE per pellet @ 50gr per pellet: 171.9 18.5": 1261.2 //// FPE per pellet @ 50gr per pellet: 176.6 *Chronographing the buckshot proved problematic, only 3 rounds registered properly from the 14", and all 5 registered from the 18.5" barrel, although one round was low, at 1202, but was included in this average. The average would rise to 1276, without it. Based on this data, I plan to run the low-recoil LE13300 and 1300fps rated low recoil Truball slugs from my shotguns, both. Shooting either at night makes a HUGE difference in flash signature, the noise and concussion is notably different, and recoil doesn't much matter to me and my split times don't seem to care, but I do feel less beat up after shooting a lot with the LR stuff, but mainly, it's wear and tear on the gun that while I'm sure it will take it (The military tested the M4 to over 4 million rounds during development across their samples, and derived a 25,000 round between major part replacement schedule from such), I see no need in it, given the other factors.
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Rifle data in non-magnum calibers often comes from a 24" test barrel. Shotgun ammo, 30" test barrel. These are somewhat "industry standards" and deviations from that are abnormal.
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This stuff is pretty close to the money compared to a lot of ammo out there! That said, Federal is very forward about saying their velocities come from from a 30" test barrel: http://www.le.vistaoutdoor.com/ammunition/federal/slug/details.aspx?id=704
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When it comes to shotguns, we have all heard the "Don't get an SBS, it limits your range!" and then we have people chime in saying "No it doesn't, with equal chokes, you get nearly equal patterns, and with slugs, they are just as accurate", to which the rebuttal "But the velocity will be less and the shot/slug won't hit nearly as hard from your SBS as from a "full size" tactical shotgun barrel like an 18.5 or 20"" Then we are left with a bunch of conjecture and confusion and very little real data and both sides kindof walk away without having actually unpackaged anything from the debate. I have long held the opinion that with at least low-recoil ammunition, the girth matters more than the length, when it comes to shotguns. Bore VOLUME is what matters, and considering the amount of powder in a shotgun shell vs. length vs bore ID, there has, in my mind, always been plenty of bore volume to make up for lopping off several inches of length because of the large ID of a 12 gauge bore. Regardless, conjecture is what we want to get away from, so I decided to actually test the theory and see if the bore ID of the 12 gauge made up for the bore shortening in the case of the SBS. Today, I tested low recoil ammunition, since it's so popular. Tomorrow, or soon, I will also test full-power ammunition, and see if the trend changes because of the larger amount of powder involved. Average velocity of 14" firing LEB127LRS (rated velocity, 1300fps) 1180.6fps, calculated kinetic energy (assuming 438gr), 1356ft-lb Average velocity of 18.5" firing LEB127LRS (rated velocity,1300fps) 1215.2fps, calculated kinetic energy (assuming 438gr), 1436ft-lb Average velocity of 14" firing LE13200 (rated velocity, 1145fps) 1088fps, (energy per pellet, assuming 50gr pellet weight) 131ft-lb Average velocity of 18.5" firing LE13200 (rated velocity, 1145fps) 1125.25fps,(energy per pellet, assuming 50gr pellet weight)141ft-lb With the slugs, the 14" SBS gave up 34.6fps, and 90ft-lb of kinetic energy. With buckshot, it gave up 37.25fps, and 10ft-lb per pellet (90 total) of kinetic energy. This is the equivalent of 6 yards in distance of flight travel, presuming a G1 BC of 0.07. Across Federal's low-recoil LE ammunition, this is a very uniform result, and I have a high level of confidence in its accuracy due to this. Thank-you for watching, and I hope this answered any questions you may have had on the topic.
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Well, as a datapoint, I tried the 1oz and 7/8oz Fiocchi slugs. Gun definitely liked the 1oz, but like yours, it was not 100% reliable. I opted simply to use the Federal Truball, although I would love it if Fiocchi would load those to about 1250 instead of 1150.
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Killer deal.
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Im using OEM.
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Ive never broken anything in, if the margin of function is so narrow that you need special loadings...thats not good. Use normal ammo. Dont take this to mean the lightest possible loading made, but rather, a normal middle road product.
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Scalarworks BOR110 - Trijicon RMR mount for Benelli M4
Unobtanium replied to NoTycoon's topic in Benelli
Someone will want this. I see the request from time to time.
