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tdaggett

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  1. I haven't posted on here in a while, but read this one and thought it would be a good one to respond to. I bought the first Vinci available here in Mobile. So far I've put about 15 cases of rounds through it. Everything from 2.75 target loads to 3" mags with buckshot, duck loads, dove loads, AA trap loads, and Slugs. On monday put 150 target loads through in about 2 hours. NO PROBLEMS WHATSOEVER. I still like my SBE II, but hte Vinci is now my weapon of choice. Light, Soft shooting, and reliable. No way should the plastics melting be any concern at all. Oh, and by the way, I think I've cleaned it 3 times, so it doesnt seem to be as finnicky about cleaning as my SBE II.
  2. tdaggett

    Vinci update

    At 40 yards standing in the backyard I'm getting about a 4 in group with both the SBE II and the vinci using Winchester 1oz slug. The Two guns seem to be fairly clost there, but with the SBE I have always seemed to be about 1 foot high at 40 yds and had to adjust my POA down to compensate. The Vinci however doesn't seem to be that way and my POA(or at least what I think I'm pointing at) and POI are right on.
  3. tdaggett

    Vinci ads

    The Vinci is serialized on the forearm module AND the recieiver/barrel module. On mine the two are different. During warranty registration I had to call Benelli CS and they say the serial number on the RECEIVER is the one important to ATF. This leaves the door at least part way open for future mods. Benelli told me that the steady grip stock and other mods are about a year out, and that a magazine ext. will never come due to the import laws although it is available already overseas. As a side note, after a little over 1000 round through it, Ireally like my Vinci. Gread concept.
  4. tdaggett

    Vinci update

    For those who care..... The Vinci now has 1000+ rounds through it with no problems. I've gone through 2 cases each of 2 3/4" target loads, and 3" Mags, plus a few boxes of different types of slugs, all without a misfire, FTE, "Benelli Click" etc.... To date, I have cleaned the thing only twice since the initial pre-assembly cleaning, and haven't had it get fouled up yet. As for as the gun itself, It has been assembled and dis-assembled numerous times and there is'nt any appreciable play or slack in any of the assembly connections. In MY opinion, Benelli may have gotten it right with this design. Yes, it looks funny, no it doesn't come in 3 1/2", but I now plan to make this my go to gun for this coming duck season, although I will probably keep the SBE II in the blind for the occasional high flying goose. Has anyone else put this many rounds through one?? Looking for other opinions. Oh, and I don't have a "shotgun shoulder" to show, but after yesterday my shoulder is a wee bit sore.
  5. You would be correct to put the rectangular plate on. It replaces the locking/shim plate inside the comfortech stock, and centers the rod. The black triangular piece is a fillett place that goes between the stock and receiver to fill the gap at the trigger guard.
  6. tdaggett

    Vinci ship date?

    Now have over 500 rounds of all types through it an not the first misfire. The only thing we havent shot out of it is slugs, thinking about trying some of those tomorrow. Overall I'm actually really impressed. The 3" mags kick about as much as my SBE with 2 3/4 target loads. Like I said earlier, over 2 cases of rounds, cleaned it once, and NO HANGUPS. Now if they'll just make me a 3.5" version.
  7. I think, and this is only an opinion,from playing around with my Vinci that the nylon tab only holds the drive system in while the gun is disassembled. Once the barrel is locked onto the butstock, the steel plate in the locking system does the job (No way that plastic tab could withstand the recoil on its own). I found after several tries, that the bolt has to be ALL the way back and the bolt handle in the rounded cutout at the rear of the receiver in order to come out. It's got an o-ring on it that keeps it very snug, and the base an ovalish shape so it will not come out unless it's all the way back. Hope that helps.
  8. Benelli CS tells me that the accessories shown in the Vinci manual, rifled barrel, Steadygrip stock, will be available in 9 months to a year. They also say that while there is a dedicated space in "THE BOX" for one, the extended magazine tubes shown will not be available in the US ever due to ATF restrictions on importing them. Maybe one of the machinists on here could take a look at the short tubes and start working on an extended one. I'll buy one if someone builds it.
  9. Well, I am 40 years old, took delivery of my Vinci 4 days ago, have since put over 400 rounds of varyingtypes from 2 3/4" 7/8oz to 3" 1 1/oz, and I can say without a doubt that the Vinci, while a little weird looking, shoots as well or better than any other shotgun I own. Yes, I bought it because it was different and I bought into the hype surrounding it, but having put nearly two CASES of ammo through it without the first misfire, I believe the hype to have been true. I've seen the ads for the new Maxus, and read the posts saying that "I'll save $300 and get the Maxus". Guess what? I paid $1349 for my vinci (28"Max4) the Maxus lists at $1339 in the same configuration. $10??? Get what you want. These things are all personal preference anyway. The gun I love may be the same one another guy can't stand. No reason to put down someone elses choice or dog on them for being young and daddy buying them a gun. My 15 year old just inherited a 1 yr. old SBE II and clains it to be the best, and it is TO HIM. Lets all play nice we were all kids once, and to each his or her own.
  10. 26". I wanted a 28, but my dealer got the 26 first and wasn't expecting any more for a while. I shoot an extended choke anyway so I'm probably 27.5" or so anyway. Im as impressed with the gun as I had hoped to be. They tell me a 3.5" version (Vinci II or SBE III) may be coming as soon as next year. I'll be getting one of those too. My son is loving this since he gets last years models when I buy the new toys for myself.
  11. Yes, the Vinci is a great trap gun. Got mine yesterday and put 100 rounds through without a hiccup. Went out to the farm today to release some pheasant and 100 more rounds without incident. After the pheasant, we broke out the clay thrower and went through 180 clays and about 200 more rounds still without any problems. The gun is EXTREMELY well balanced, swings very well, kicks about as much with 3" magnums as my SBE II does with light target loads, cycles faster than I can pull the trigger, and fits me very well. Oh, did I mention it WEIGHS NOTHING?!?! I think they got it right. All the little issues I have with the SBE II are gone, and after you get past the odd looks (it does grow on you) and learn the assembly/dis-assembly procedure, I think this one really is a "do-it-all" gun. 400 rounds of everything from 7/8 oz target loads to nitro pheasant and 3' #3 Black cloud in two days and NOT ONE MISFIRE. Now give me one in 3 1/2.
  12. tdaggett

    Vinci ship date?

    we're going to the farm tomorrow and letting about 300 pheasants go. Should give it a pretty good workout. I'll post up afterwards with a full report.
  13. tdaggett

    Vinci ship date?

    My dealer called last night, and I picked mine up this morning. They only got 1 in and are supposed to have 9 more by the end of next week. After assembling and dis-assembling a couple times to get the drill down, I went straight to some 7/8 oz target loads to get the test going. 50 rounds of the light stuff and NO misfires. Switched to 3" #3 BlackCloud and shot 50 more. Again no misfires. The gun is VERY light, well under 7 pounds, and the 3"Magnums kicked about the same as a 2 3/4" 1 1/8 oz target loads do out of my SBE II. It does look a little weird, but after 100 rounds I feel like the hype was real. I also noted that I seem to be more on target whereas I tended to consistently shoot about 15 inches high with the SBE. Now, only time will tell, but my initial reaction is WOW, they fixed the few little complaints I had with the SBE, and made it lighter.
  14. +1 for the 3.5s. If I werea better shot, maybe the 3's would be enough, but I need all the bb's I can get in the air
  15. The steadygrip goes on the same way the comfortech came off. The shims need to go back on and there should be a small black plastic filler piece that smoothes the transition to the trigger guard. You are correct about the black tab being a sling mount, however in addition, it replaces the locking plate/ shim inside the stock, just under the lock washer. Hope that expains it.
  16. Like I said in my earlier post, go with a Lab. And no, you don't have to use a pro to train for the retreive, but you have to be prepared to spend lots of time training. I just sent my 1 yr old dog to the trainer 6 weeks ago. I just didn't have the time to do it myself and get it right which put us way behind and missed a whole duck season with her. A dog from a good pedigree wil usually, but not always, give you a headstart as they are from proven retreiving stock. That being said, the best hunting dog I ever had was a stray mutt of some sort who showed up in the yard looking about 3 months old and retreived ducks, pointed quail&pheasant, ran deer, and treed coons with no training at all. Still, GET A LAB, from somewhere, anywhere. You won't be dissappointed.
  17. Lab, Lab,Lab. Any color, just get a Lab. Mine's great in hte house. Completely housebroken, sleeps in the bed when allowed, and plays with the Pomeranian very nicely. Down here in the South you can expect to pay $800-$1200 for a dog with a great pedigree (hunt test titles and such). While the super pedigree isn't a guarantee, it's a pretty good indication that you're getting a dog with strong retrievein bloodlines. Training is another matter. My trainer charges $400/mo. till the dog is ready, which can be 4-8 months depending on the level of training you require. Field trials training can take even longer. GET A LAB!!!! (my trainer is a big fan of Chessapeake's, but they can often be less friendly)
  18. tdaggett

    VINCI

    I like it, BUT where's my 3 1/2?
  19. the retaining lever is in the forward end of the lower reciever . Turn the gun upside down and press in the shell carrier. You can see the retainer just holding the lip of the next shell in the mag. Just push it outward and the shell will pop out of the mag. Repeat as many times as there are shells. The butt pad you just grab at one end, kind of push toward the other end and pull away from the stock. There's just a semi-rigid lip holding it in there.
  20. tdaggett

    SBE 1 stuck open?

    My SBE II wil occasionally hang open when unloading. Make sure the bolt is locked in the open position or hold it there. Then put your finger in the underside of the reciever and push up on the shell carrier and press outward on the magazine cartridge drop lever inside the side of the reciever. Sometimes the drop lever isnt completely out of the way when the shell carrier tries to come back down and they hang on each other.
  21. The Vortex IC shot a very consistent pattern of about 30" at 30 yds. with BlackCloud 3 1/2 #2's. The Vortex MOD was about the same at around 40-45 yds. out of my SBE II. The Kicks Hi-Flyers shot a slightly wider pattern (35-45") at the same distances with Fiocchi 3 1/2 #2's. I think the wider pattern is largely due to the sheer volume of shot in the Fiocchi shell. I'm pretty sure that next year I'll stick mainly with the Hi-Flyer and Fiocchi simply because the shells are ten bucks a box cheaper and at least in my estimation fire a lot cleaner. Not to mention they're availble in a 1 9/16 oz. shot load. Thats a LOT of pellets flying.
  22. I shot both the Vortex, and the Kicks Hi-Flyers this year, both to great effect. The vortex is deigned for use with the black cloud ammo, as it doesnt strip the wad like many chokes do. The Hi-flyer is for use with "conventional" ammo. I shoot the Vortex and Hi-flyer IC in the timber with 3" #3's and Use both in MOD with 3 1/2 #2's out in the rice fields. The only issue I've had with any of these combinations is that the Federral Black Cloud has got to be some of the dirtiest stuff I've ever shot. The Fiocchi 31/2" #2's are a heck of a lot cheaper and in my opinion a whole bunch cleaner. And yes, the 3 1/2's kick, but I changed recoil pads and went with the Limbsaver on the SBE II. It makes a world of difference.
  23. Do you make one for the SBE II? I've got a cheap one but its one piece and just replaces the mag cap. Have to change tubes to hunt. If you make a tube with a cap and limiter plug for the SBE II, I'd be VERY interested.
  24. It depends. The M2 won't shoot 3 1/2" shells. Which one you buy really depends on what you want it for. I have both. The SBE II is for waterfowl as I dont think steel shot it worth a damn and shoot the 3.5's with larger shot for ducks and geese. The M2 I use for upland birds, dove and quail. Just my humble opinion.
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