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I picked up a rifle case and throw the rifle with the scope still attached into the rifle case, but another way to do it is to take off the scope and use the Benelli hard plastic case and than zero in at an indoor range when it is necessary to set it up again for hunting. It sounds like leaving the base attached and being able to remove the scope from the rings worked well, and that does sound like something to do, if you need to keep a zero intact. I might try to set mine up like that when I get a better scope. Another thing that could happen is that sometimes you may want to detach the barrel for various reasons, and if you can detach the scope without taking the base off, than that is worth having because it is awkward to leave the scope on and clean the barrel, etc. Actually I have taken the whole base off and reattached it and been reasonable, but not perfect, yet not way off the mark. If I have to unscrew it though each time than it might not screw on tight, so I am toying with disaster.
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The barrel that the SNT comes with does not allow you to interchange chokes, like for example the SBEII which comes with five different interchangeable chokes, but the SNT has a very short barrel length. Just that shooting clay is so fast that you raise and point, so you can't even use the sights on the SNT when you have to shoot that quickly. You just see the clay's direction and raise the shot gun in that direction and immediately shoot. With the sights on a SNT if someone was holding a hostage, you can aim and take a precise shot using the rear and front sights if they are properly adjusted. You can also shoot a person a few hundred feet away, but if it is very far than you need a rifle with a high powered scope. If you picked up a SBEII or one of the Sporting rifles, than you would see the difference, that it is natural to see the point of the barrel and you are taking a high shot, a shot in the air, it feels better using a longer gun. The SNT, you pick it up and close the action while at the same time raising the gun, and you have a head or chest shot lined up automatically, looking through the rear sight.
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Try it, but it is probably awkward to use for trap. The guns feel a lot different (SNT and SBEII). That is the best way to find out, but you don't see it used for sport shooting. I'm assuming that there is a good reason for that. It's fast, shooting clay, you don't have much time. You don't really aim, you sort of approximate and bring the gun up and shoot all in one motion. There is different types of hits, where the clay completely breaks or when it partially breaks, so there is some details involved. You can probably convert the skill you get in trap shooting directly to bird hunting.
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Benelli does not make them, but the side by side sporting guns are a lot nicer for clay or trap shooting.. Benelli has a Super Sport and Sport II type of shot gun, but a side by side is cooler, I think. Yet the advertising suggest that these guns are fast, so maybe you can pull a mini Flanigan with them. I've used my Super Black Eagle II for clay shooting once. I did it wrong because I did not begin at the waist and than raise the gun but I started at the shoulder so I could not see the clay until it was already high in the sky. Anyway, the Super Black Eagle II works reasonably well if you know what you are doing as far as technique is concerned. This Super Nova Tactical is better for shooting at targets such as a target with a human outline on it, where you can shoot at the head or the chest/heart, etc. You raise the gun fast and look through the special sights and rip a hammer. You can shoot this gun at the hip, but yeah, trap shooting is way better using a traditional gun, and even a luxury high end gun like an expensive side by side shot gun. That is what I think anyway but a nice side by side is about three times more expensive than the Super Nova Tactical.
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It comes with both sights. There's a of a Super Nova Tactical photo on my profile page under photo albums. It is a must have gun. I can't say that I put mine to work yet. It is still new, but I've used some of the other Benelli guns. I could step outside today and fire off a few shells but it is cold outside, very cold, and it is going to warm up after today.
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Grab the pistol grip because you can always get the standard shot gun in other Benelli models. You don't need to worry about recoil because you can pull the stock firmly into your body with the pistol grip and recoil as far as I know is more of an issue with a semi automatic action where you want to try to stay on the target and not get pulled off by recoil. The buttstock on the Super Nova Tactical pistol grip is quite thick so it shouldn't pierce as much as a thinner buttstock. It all comes down to how you hold the gun. Some guys love the recoil. There is a front sight and a rear sight which line up with each other, and a rail for adding a red dot sight, if you can afford it. Those things cost almost as much as the gun itself but it is something to look forward to.
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I thought that the over and under shot guns were the best for clay shooting. They have a barrel that is slightly curved or something like that, so you can take aim easily. Those are expensive guns, but nice.
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If you are in the USA than this looks like a better pump tactical shot gun http://www.nighthawktactical.com/Tactical_Shotguns.html >. The Benelli one is not very expensive, although in Canada it is expensive. The prices vary so much. You never know what to expect, but one thing that I'm not so sure about with the Benelli SNT is the plastic pump, because If they do that than put rubber over top of the plastic at least. I wouldn't mind a high end tactical pump, otherwise this gun is okay for the price, and it might be plenty, yet they don't give you that option.
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There's a Super Nova Tactical and I think that there is a Nova Tactical, but the Super Nova is the newer model. It has both front and rear sights and a pistol grip. The barrel stamp on the Super Nova Tactical says that it accepts 2 3/4, 3, and 3 1/2 inch long shells of any type of shot, and either lead or steel (according to the manual). The telescopic buttstock is thick, so it feels nice to raise the gun in fact. It is quite good actually. You can get red dot laser sights I found out, but they cost as much as the gun. The ghost rear sight appears to be plenty for daylight shooting, than throw on the laser sight at night. I haven't shot mine yet (SN Tact), but I'm confident in Benelli at this stage. For defense you could just go with a hand gun, but for a defensive/offense gun, than the SN Tact is how I see it, but for over bearing offense than the M4 looks better. I have a photo of mine in my profile album.
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One of my Benelli guns, I think the R1, came with sling connectors. Not all of the guns do. Some of the guns come in a hard plastic case, and others come in card board boxes. I will take what I can get, but the proper connectors do exist and they work with the gun. I couldn't upload a photo here so I put one over here http://www.sffchronicles.co.uk/forum/members/tinsel-albums-various-2010-picture775-sbe-ii.html >. You can see the Benelli sling connector fairly well on the stock.
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Actually a sling, multiple point, does work for the M4 because it is sort of like a rifle, point and shoot, but with a Super Nova Tactical it might not work as well because you have to operate the pump action. That is what I'm thinking now. I could probably transition to a hand gun using my left hand since I'm multi dexterous, which is an oddity.
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If you drop an M4 it might shoot accidentally, but if you drop a Super Nova, than it is safe because you need to close the action manually. I have a sling for the Super Black Eagle II and it is awesome, same with any rifle like the R1 rifle, you need a sling and you need it to fit tight. I shot recently with the R1 and the sling wasn't tight enough so it wasn't fully effective. I don't think that the tactical shot guns are as nice to shoot long distance as say a Super Black Eagle II or the slug gun, so I'd maybe put one slug in, and the rest buck shot or lighter shot depending upon where you are shooting. The thing is, with the tactical shot gun, you can pull it up to the shoulder and hit a target 600 feet away, so that is nicer to use than a hand gun.
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The shot gun has the greatest stopping force, so it is the close range weapon, just shoot at the hip at real close range, and if you run out of shells and want to transition to a hand gun, than throw the shot gun on the ground.
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I thought about this recently, and I came to the conclusion that a sling is not useful, as long as you have the pistol grip.
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I've put 140 rounds through mine so far and I've had it for about four or five months. It is fun to shoot with since it is powerful and at the same time it can be accurate. I figure that I'll buy another R1 when this one looks worn, or say after a certain amount of shots, than I'll just retire it and use a brand new one. Some of the Benelli guns are somewhat difficult to buy in Canada but you can get them. I'll have to wait for a MR1 for example because I called a couple of places and they are on back order. A super black eagle II on the other hand is easy to find. The R1's are available but not plentiful, yet I can get another one. I'm not sure why R1's are not easy to find. Yeah well this is a strange setup with all of the people in these countries, I'm not sure if it is actually true that there are so many people because they keep so quiet. I might not use the R1 as much when I get an MR1 if the MR1 is fun to shoot with. At any rate, the R1 can handle quite a bit of shooting. I feel the barrel to see how hot it gets. It is hot after shooting five rounds so let it cool down for a few minutes at least. There was one place that I called and they had 15, R1 rifles on back order.
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Try putting one in the chamber and let the inertia system do the reload from the magazine. There is less chance of an accident. One probably does not need to let the bolt slam on the cartridge in the chamber, but I usually let it slam. Anyway it is my first rifle, but I'll ease the bolt closed next time I shoot. I've only shot 140 rounds or so. A few didn't fire, probably including that one that was aimed at myself!
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I have not had any problems but I load the chamber, release the bolt, and than I take out the clip and load the clip, and throw it back in. Also, I let the bolt slam, I don't release it gingerly, although maybe I could in fact. That is something I'll have to test, but I let the bolt slam and it works every time. Umm, what else. Yeah, use a sling, and I've shot 50 in a day before, but lately I just shoot a case of 20 (maybe it is 24 in the USA but not in Canada). I always test my scope so I load the first round into the chamber and shoot without loading the clip, and if it is accurate than I might go to loading the clip so I can have more shots. Oh and I'm not sure how I want to do the shooting in groups because I've still working on getting an accurate 5 shots while standing, but I think that I've figured out something recently that will help, but this part is where the marksman comes in and I'm too new to shooting. I'm going to try out a better scope for one thing and delegate my lesser scope to a mini rifle like the MR1. Unless you are talking about drinking two cases of beer, like 24 beers instead of cartridges.... Make sure that the safety is on before you load and turn it off after you shoot the last round. I sometimes forget, but I always look before I load.
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The R1 30-06 is nice and easy to shoot. It has some safety features, I have noticed! The thing is that when shooting the R1 it makes quite a loud noise and it is fairly tough to shoot say a batch of 5 rounds with accuracy while standing. It takes a while to get off 5 with accuracy. Now I see the MR1 and it looks like it might be easier to handle and I see that the cartridges are 55 grain (as opposed to the R1's 180 grain). How much noise does the MR1 make compared to the R1? How much lighter is it (I will look at the specs but I have to run at the moment).
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I see that there isn't any hand guns but there is an MR1 and a M4 tactical shot gun. So I have a beginner question: 1) Is the MR1 easier to shoot with as far as having less kick than a M4. That is what it looks like, but maybe someone can verify. I'm thinking that in a tactical situation that aiming and firing quickly several shots on target is ideal. I suppose that if a person were strong enough than they could do the same thing with an R1 rifle but the R1 is also probably noisy compared to a MR1.
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I thought that the Leupold VX-3 3.5-10x40mm was under powered for the R1, but it still does work. If the rings are too high you can use a cheek rest. I see that there are rings that can be removed from the rail without a screw driver. Anyway, the rings are easy to install, it is not a complicated job.
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It gives me 3 shells in the magazine, but if I was using 3 1/2 inch than the magazine takes only 2. As far as I know, you can use them all, you can put in a 2 3/4 followed by a 3 1/2 and another 2 3/4.
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This is true. I did take out the plug and it gives me an extra shell and is that spring ever dangerous! I'm better off being aware that it is located there (that spring). We are allowed to have five rounds here in Canada. In the USA they limit you to three, but than I've seen ads for guns that shoot twelve rounds, so what the heck. Anyway, I wish that it would hold five shells instead of four.
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I put plenty of rounds through mine in two outings and it stood up fine although it pays to make sure to understand how to operate the gun according to the manual, and get a higher end scope. That won't let you down.
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The are more rare than some of the other brands but they are available. I could get another, if I needed to.
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Well buck shot is lead. Is it safe to use a full choke and shoot buck shot. I don't think that buck is meant to be shot at birds but a full choke would mean that buck shot would travel quite some distance, perhaps comparable to a slug using CL. I would use the buck shot at an indoor range where the lane is only about 160 feet long but if it is fine to use a FC, than I would put that to the test.
