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Vortec MAX

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  1. See this thread for photos: Anybody-using-an-M4-to-compete-in-3-Gun Mike
  2. I took some pictures of my current configuration: Mike
  3. Here are a couple of pictures of the trigger group. You can see the minimal sear/hammer engagement I talked about in the second picture. It seems to work well though. Pic 1 Pic 2 Mike
  4. I took a couple of photos of the lead fouling that the Tornado brush was able to get out of the barrel of my M4. I can't believe how much was in there. I actually threw the cleaning mat away because I was concerned about getting the lead airborne or scattering it about if I tried to clean up the mat. Next time I will be doing this outside, or using newspaper to catch this stuff. I can definitely see how all this would affect accuracy. Mike
  5. And one of the co-witness ability. I have to say... getting this photo was a real PITA. I bet I took 20 photos before I got this one. One thing about this mount that is worth mentioning: The Tango Down rubber cover I had for the Aimpoint T-1 does not work with this mount. Neither does the factory "bikini" type cover. The bikini cover will go on, but will not seat over the lenses as it should due to the very tight space between the mount and the bottom of the lens housings. Mike
  6. I am finally getting these pictures posted as promised. I have used the mount now in two 3-gun competitions and have been pleased with it. Mike
  7. Worth the money is subjective. With the M4, there are not a lot of options out there. The FFT trigger group is also expensive. This is just another option (which is actually available). I would like to know what the trigger pull is on an FFT setup for comparison. So if anybody has measured theirs, please chime in. I am still deciding how well I like the trigger. I definitely like it better than stock, but was hoping for a trigger that was 3.5 to 4 pounds rather than the 5.5 that I got. But even though the trigger is heavier than I hoped for, I can break the trigger precisely when I want to as I swing the gun across the target, which is something I struggled with using the stock trigger. I did notice that the hammer to sear engagement is very small compared to a stock trigger. It makes me wonder if it will hold up over thousands of shots. I will get some photos posted up soon, so you can see what I mean. I use my M4 in 3-gun competition, but the concepts also apply to self defense when there are multiple assailants. When shooting at a bunch of steel plates, I literally have to stop my swing at each plate because of the heavy stock trigger and not knowing precisely when it was going to break. A short travel, short reset, lighter pull trigger helps you to break the trigger precisely as you swing across a target without stopping your swing to move to the next target. It is smoother and faster that way. I was practicing my twin loads and first shot (dry fire with dummy rounds) last night and was impressed about how easily I could break the trigger precisely on the target I chose (like a door knob) as I swung the gun up to my eye. I have a 3-gun comp on Saturday and plan to use the M4 with the new trigger. I will likely have better feedback after the comp. Hope that helps. Mike
  8. Got my trigger group back from Briley. The stock trigger averaged 6.7 lbs. The Briley trigger averages 5.5 lbs. I was hoping it would be lighter than that. Travel and reset are very short, which is desirable. I had an issue with their customer service which was supposed to be remedied with a credit back to my credit card. It has been over a week and I have not seen the credit show up yet. I will try to post some photos in the next few days. The battery in my camera is currently dead. Mike
  9. I still don't have it back yet. I am patiently (well... somewhat patiently) waiting for it to arrive. I will definitely update you when I get it. I measured trigger pull before I sent it in and will measure what it is when it gets back. Mike
  10. I think there are steel parts to the Hexolit slugs, so I would not be able to shoot them at steel targets in 3-gun. There is a high danger of ricochet, so they would not be allowed. Steel shot is also not allowed for the same reason. They are a cool design though. Mike
  11. When I bought mine, which was quite a few years ago, they were about $55. I would expect them to cost more than that when they start making them again. Last month, Kip sent me this update: Hope that helps. Mike
  12. I think they will at a $45 discount. $45 of the price is for the installation. I read that somewhere else, not on their site. Mike EDIT: I found the source. It was on their Facebook page here.
  13. I haven't ever seen another like mine either. As soon as I get my trigger group back from Briley, I will post up some pics. Mike
  14. Nice lookin' Benelli. I went the opposite direction with mine. I made my M4 longer so I could get 10 rounds in it. Mike
  15. So I decided to be the Guinea pig. I sent my Benelli M4 trigger group into these guys. They have it now. I will report on the trigger once I get it back. Benelli - All Automatic Models Match Triggers Mike
  16. I am running an Aimpoint T-1 4 MOA dot on my M4. I am now using the new Midwest Industries low profile mount that allows you to co-witness the ghost ring sights if desired. I am pretty happy with the setup. I used to run a Trijicon RMR but during one competition it rained and a droplet of water covered the light emitter and scattered light all over the screen. One drop of water rendered the RMR useless until it dried out again. That is why I moved to the Aimpoint which is sealed at both ends. Mike
  17. That is a strange way to design the magazine tube. I have never seen a shotgun magazine that could not be disassembled for cleaning from the muzzle end before. Sorry for my erroneous post above. Mike
  18. You do not have to remove the magazine tube from the receiver to clean it. Just take the spring and follower out from the muzzle end and brush it and run patches through it like it was a barrel. Of course the trigger group needs to be removed when you do this. Mike
  19. I wish the author would have disclosed which choke he used for slug testing. I am guessing he used the choke that came with the M4 for buckshot testing, but that choke would be tight for slugs. Mike
  20. I experienced the lead fouling first hand last night. I still did not get it all out and I scrubbed on it for about 45 minutes with a bronze brush alternated with patches down the bore. You could see gray metal flake on the patches, so I knew it was lead. Nasty stuff. I do hope all that work improved the accuracy some. I will have to look into that Tornado brush you speak of. Mike
  21. Here is a link to a similar discussion on this forum from a few years back: Most Accurate and Best Slugs Mike
  22. You have not had any issues running rifled slugs through a choke that tight? How was their accuracy? Mike
  23. I tried some TruBall slugs tonight. They look much more promising. I shot a 3-shot group with an extended IC choke and a 3-shot group with a flush cylinder choke at 25 yards. Both chokes produced groups with holes that nearly touched. Much better than I was doing with the Hydra-Shok slugs. I will do more testing and get back to you. Feel free to join in the conversation. I feel a little like I am just talking to myself here Mike
  24. I have a few ARs from Colt that are marked "Restricted Use, Law Enforcement Only." I think that maybe Colt did that to cover their own butt in case one was used in a crime. It might give them the excuse that these rifles were never intended for the civilian market. Maybe Benelli is doing the same. Mike
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