StrangerDanger Posted January 31, 2012 Share Posted January 31, 2012 Hi all, I'm curious where all of your shell stop springs are installed. Before you go, "Huh?" It is part #74. I have access to three M4's, and I just noticed that the spring has been installed in two separate locations. On each unit, I simply replaced the spring to the location that I received the weapon from the factory when installing GG&G releases. The GG&G shell stop is simply an OEM unit that is tapped for the use of their oversized release. So no physical changes are noted. On all three samples, the units appear the same, so I do not believe there has been an inline production change from Benelli. On my oldest M4, an 11703 which is from '04 which has been fully rebuilt by Benelli in '09, the spring has been all the way to the rear of the shell release lever in the little pocket at the end. Wear on the receiver corresponded to the springs location, so I can tell that it hasn't shifted since I initially received the weapon. After 13,000 rounds, the spring has burnished itself into the anodizing. I noticed on my two newer 11707 from around '09 and '10 production, the springs are located in the center of the shell stop just behind the retention pin. My 11703 has always been a real PITA to eject shells from manually be depressing the shell stop from the inside of the receiver. Particularly the very last round in the magazine tube. So tonight, I decided to disassemble the shell stop, and move the spring to the central position of the shell stop to see if the level would operate better. The rounds are significantly easier to remove now manually. I'm going to live fire it again later today to make sure everything is functioning properly. There is really no seat position for this spring, so there is a lot of variables where it can be placed. If you're not careful when cleaning, you could easily knock the spring out of alignment and be forced to disassemble the unit to fix it (not fun even with the correct tools.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crofton Posted January 31, 2012 Share Posted January 31, 2012 (edited) My camera isn't very good (actually it is the nut behind the keyboard), here is the location of mine. Have never had issues with manually ejecting shells. When I installed the GG&G per your warning, I made a mental note of the location of the spring and installed in same place. Don't want to take it apart again, but I thought there was a seat position on the bar, not sure but just believe there was. Forgot to add: mine is a 2011 model http:// http:// Edited January 31, 2012 by crofton Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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etale Posted January 31, 2012 Share Posted January 31, 2012 Mine is in exactly the same position as Crofton's. My m4 is 2010 production, I think (bought in early 2011). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KB Fab Posted January 31, 2012 Share Posted January 31, 2012 Pretty sure mine is in the same place as above. IIRC, there was a small circular indent where the end of the spring is supposed to ride. Mine is 2010 production. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benelliwerkes Posted January 31, 2012 Share Posted January 31, 2012 (edited) These photos might help. Having your own Anatomy Series Benelli M4 Super90 Manual would answer all these questions ! [ATTACH=CONFIG]1305[/ATTACH][ATTACH=CONFIG]1306[/ATTACH][ATTACH=CONFIG]1307[/ATTACH] Edited January 31, 2012 by benelliwerkes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d Posted January 31, 2012 Share Posted January 31, 2012 These photos might help. Having your own Anatomy Series Benelli M4 Super90 Manual would answer all these questions ! [ATTACH=CONFIG]1305[/ATTACH][ATTACH=CONFIG]1306[/ATTACH][ATTACH=CONFIG]1307[/ATTACH] Where does one pick up said manual? Regards, d Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benelliwerkes Posted February 1, 2012 Share Posted February 1, 2012 Email your request to [email protected] and I will forward the information to you. Thanks for your interest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunrisef150 Posted February 1, 2012 Share Posted February 1, 2012 Mine seems to look like the above pic as well. Purchased in late 06' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangerDanger Posted February 1, 2012 Author Share Posted February 1, 2012 Thanks for the info and pictures. I tried finding some on the internet, but none could be found. I reset the spring to the factory position on all three units. I'm kind of at a loss to what is causing the sporadic failures. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KB Fab Posted February 2, 2012 Share Posted February 2, 2012 Pulled mine apart tonight and here are two pics. First one is of the receiver and how it's positioned. Second is of the carrier latch and the "spring retainer cut out". At least this is how both my carrier latches are constructed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangerDanger Posted February 2, 2012 Author Share Posted February 2, 2012 Thanks for the great quality pictures. That's where I had the spring set. Ran the weapon today without a single problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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