Just saw a post showing the Freedom Fighter 3/4 H20 charging handle jacking up his receiver. Anyone had this issue?

[MrMilitaryPolice]

2 hours ago, Nocturnalnature said:

 

I understood that reference ?!

he understood it too...its why i have messages in my inbox

[alpha 33]

11 hours ago, MrMilitaryPolice said:

he understood it too...its why i have messages in my inbox

I've noticed several replies to this "benign" thread have been deleted.

[MrMilitaryPolice]

7 hours ago, alpha 33 said:

I've noticed several replies to this "benign" thread have been deleted.

yeah, ive noticed that as well. i guess he cant take the heat and hopes we have a short memory. i'd be ashamed too if i were him.

[Florian]

I just looked at mine closely, theres at least a 32nd clearance if not more between the receiver and base of the handle.  Im betting the handle was pushed in a bit too far

 

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[bychance12]

 

 

[Milspec]

I’ve been meaning to post my not so scientific bolt handle comparisons for a while.  I’ve been slacking but this seems like the perfect thread.

In the photo below we have FFT NP3 steel charging handle, Benelli M4 OEM, KZ NP3 steel charging handle and a new revision TTI charging handle.

 

By measuring with calipers I gathered some rough data.  I measured from receiver facing side of the handle to the end of the shaft where it engages the detent inside of the carrier.

Take these figure with a grain of salt but I believe they are a pretty close representation.

Again this is from the receiver end of the handle (the part where the shaft begins) to the end of the shaft. In inches.

FFT:  1.172 

BM4 OEM:  1.184

KZ:  1.19

TTI:  1.21

My motivation for doing this was due to the fact that I perceived the FFT handle to sit quite close to the receiver.  I noticed that if I inserted it with a little too much force it comes in contact with the receiver.  This is not a knock against FFT or their handle.  It’s just my personal experience and one could even say possible operator error on my part.  In any event I wasn’t comfortable with the close proximity of the handle to the receiver.  Todd sells oodles of these.  Just some food for thought.

As you can see from these examples in this particular “experiment” I found the TTI handle to have the most clearance or buffer if you will.

 

 

Edited August 7, 2021 by Milspec

[bychance12]

The damage can be clearly seen on the finish of these M4’s in the pics and video.

The 3/4 FFT H20 handle I purchased will not be used on my H20.

 

[quest450]

The 1/2” is slightly better.....adds character Lol, but it could be an ejection mark

 

 

Edited August 7, 2021 by quest450

[D'zaster]

I tried the GGG handle and got a bit of a mark. Went back to the KZ. 

[Fullassault]

Have the KZ , seems to have plenty of clearance.

[Milspec]

18 hours ago, quest450 said:

The 1/2” is slightly better.....adds character Lol, but it could be an ejection mark

 

 

 

Not to derail but I really like the checkering on the FFT bolt release.  I just wish he had made the screw hole off set like the GG&G release.  See how the FFT version slightly overlaps the bevel on the receiver.  I like how the GG&G version allows for some space there if you choose.  Just my opinion.

[BigBuckeye]

I know this is an old thread but this just happened to me…I have the 1/2” FFT bolt and it scratched my receiver….wish I would have seen this sooner.  

[StreetSweeper56]

9 minutes ago, BigBuckeye said:

I know this is an old thread but this just happened to me…I have the 1/2” FFT bolt and it scratched my receiver….wish I would have seen this 

What has always surprised me is that, on instllation, many people do not notice that the handle is close to the receiver. A couple of great handles I own have come off people in this forum. Robb with Rxarms (rxarms.com) in particular is a fantastic parts developer that's here.

[BigBuckeye]

Mine appears to clear the receiver but during cycling it is clearly making contact.  

[John Doe]

I have the 1/2 and have had zero issues like this. I run my M4 a lot and have no marks on my receiver. This is an old thread so maybe he has changed something on them. I love FFT and their products and have always done good by me. 

[BigBuckeye]

My handle is only a few months old

[John Doe]

6 minutes ago, BigBuckeye said:

My handle is only a few months old

That is interesting. I couldn't tell you what is happening, I have not had these issues personally not sure why some do and some dont.

[mr2jeff]

my vote is Taran Tactical ch, perfect size, texture and function, have had several and the others, to each his own though. have since added an RX arms TI cap and just irons no red dot, maybe a aimpoint duty rds one day