RxArms Posted April 13, 2022 Share Posted April 13, 2022 (edited) Just got another M4, this one is brand new unfired. It is amazing how the detent in the bolt, is a lot looser than my older M4 that is probably well over 15 years old. my older one is an aluminum trigger group, new one is polymer. The new OEM bolt handle is sloppy, due to the lack of spring force in the detent, old M4 the OEM handle is very solid in place with more force from the spring. Is this normal for newer M4s? Just thought it was an interesting development. I wanted an older one and newer one for R&D. I will take a look at it in more detail later, I'll try and loosen up the detent with some oil and see if that helps. An interesting observation regarding perhaps the lack of quality control present in new production models. Edited April 13, 2022 by RxArms 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KiloEcho6 Posted April 14, 2022 Share Posted April 14, 2022 Ugh. That makes me sick still not having taken possession of mine due to ATF. Over $2K spent and subpar quality ? yay 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rubicon20032003 Posted April 14, 2022 Share Posted April 14, 2022 I won’t buy a new Benelli.Only ones I’ll buy even used are aluminum trigger housing ones.Mydealer is a big Benelli dealer.And when they get in a order quality is crap on some.A few good ones get thru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rubicon20032003 Posted April 14, 2022 Share Posted April 14, 2022 36 minutes ago, KiloEcho6 said: Ugh. That makes me sick still not having taken possession of mine due to ATF. Over $2K spent and subpar quality ? yay Hope you didn’t grab a new entry.Somr are coming thru with a longer cut down barrel.That extends past cap and looks like shit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonnylaw Posted April 14, 2022 Share Posted April 14, 2022 When did they switch to polymer? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KiloEcho6 Posted April 14, 2022 Share Posted April 14, 2022 1 hour ago, rubicon20032003 said: Hope you didn’t grab a new entry.Somr are coming thru with a longer cut down barrel.That extends past cap and looks like shit I did indeed. Already planning on shipping it off if it is. Starting to regret this whole fiasco. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StreetSweeper56 Posted April 14, 2022 Share Posted April 14, 2022 47 minutes ago, KiloEcho6 said: I did indeed. Already planning on shipping it off if it is. Starting to regret this whole fiasco. Don't give up on it before you get it! I'd at least shoot it first, I bet you'll like it, give it a chance, man. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonnylaw Posted April 14, 2022 Share Posted April 14, 2022 I waited a long time for my LE model 11715 and haven’t taken a close look at it yet. Ugggh 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StreetSweeper56 Posted April 14, 2022 Share Posted April 14, 2022 41 minutes ago, Jonnylaw said: I waited a long time for my LE model 11715 and haven’t taken a close look at it yet. Ugggh I have a 11715 and the polymer trigger guard is fine, it's plenty tough. I put an A&S on mine, not because the OEM was poly but for the recessed loading ramp. I am certain you're gonna love the gun, give it a shot (or 100). 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RxArms Posted April 14, 2022 Author Share Posted April 14, 2022 4 minutes ago, StreetSweeper56 said: I have a 11715 and the polymer trigger guard is fine, it's plenty tough. I put an A&S on mine, not because the OEM was poly but for the recessed loading ramp. I am certain you're gonna love the gun, give it a shot (or 100). Polymer trigger guard is actually more impact resistant than the aluminum. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RxArms Posted April 14, 2022 Author Share Posted April 14, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, KiloEcho6 said: I did indeed. Already planning on shipping it off if it is. Starting to regret this whole fiasco. Not all of them will have issues, definitely don’t give up on it before you even have it. I will say this, holding a brand spanking new M4 in your hand is an experience like no other. A used older one is great obviously, but a new one is a beautiful thing. Edited April 14, 2022 by RxArms 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anon4755 Posted April 14, 2022 Share Posted April 14, 2022 48 minutes ago, RxArms said: Polymer trigger guard is actually more impact resistant than the aluminum. True, but is polymer bomb proof like the rest of the firearm? Ignoring the stock and handguards of course. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unobtanium Posted April 14, 2022 Share Posted April 14, 2022 Starting in 2008, I've owned about 10 Benelli m4s, purchased throughout the years. Some had greenish phosphate Some had very rough bores in the piston housing Some had crooked FSP (One, Benelli replaced on their dime). Some had anodizing that was chipping off on the inside of the receiver. Some had visible machine marks in the upper. The only "new" thing to me post covid are crooked recoil tubes. These need watching out for. Otherwise? All of these complaints fall within "variances Ive experienced." 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unobtanium Posted April 14, 2022 Share Posted April 14, 2022 (edited) 18 hours ago, rubicon20032003 said: Hope you didn’t grab a new entry.Somr are coming thru with a longer cut down barrel.That extends past cap and looks like shit This is not new. Its been a thing for many years. Edited April 14, 2022 by Unobtanium Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fullassault Posted April 15, 2022 Share Posted April 15, 2022 I have over 1000rds through my 2021 M1014, never had a failure, no QC issues, the chrome in the bore & gas ports looks new. The finish is perfect. Never had a problem with the poly trigger housing but I did swap it out pretty early on for an aluminum one. Positive locking of CH, straight sights, it’s been amazing. Im not saying there isn’t QC issues with new Benellis , just saying some of them are GTG. 4 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCswamp13 Posted April 26, 2022 Share Posted April 26, 2022 Can you date M4s to see when they were made? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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