SergeantBernie

*sigh* and *sigh* again.

I checked about a year ago or less and a store called House of Bargains in Apache Flats, MO had it for sub $600. It was the best price I found. http://www.superpages.com/bp/Jefferson-City-MO/House-of-Bargains-RentIt-Center-L2052096670.htm Good luck.

After seeing my 14" sbs, my brother went a step further and is having his M4 modded into the Israeli 9" model. I think you might have the bulge a little too far back, but I'd nominate your barrel for an Israeli chop down and your receiver for SBS registration.

I'm still around - just been busy with a new son for the past 6 months or so. The front sight and hanger must be shimmed, around 0.040" each if I recall correctly. Requires 2 different temp solders to do right I've been told. I've put about 200-300 rounds through the modded 14" bbl. No stoppages or issues at all. I've shot both high and low brass stuff and it digests it all. My brother has been in contact with a guy off AR15.com that has a fixture made for the M4 barrel shortening mod - this may indeed be the user WARPED posting here. His pics shown here certainly look like he does top notch stuff. The pattern has opened up, but it is still a lethal close to medium range skeet gun. With 6 rounds semi-auto, whoever is running the auto skeet thrower can't throw clays fast enough to overwhelm you. I love the 14" M4, but have also been thinking about getting a spare 18.5" bbl to get a little extra range on skeet. Then again, I try to pick a use for a weapon and stick with it so I don't have hundreds of dollars of parts/optics accessories lying around unused (or God forbid - connected to the weapon) like some sort of mall ninja. The M4 SBS with a side saddle is awesome the way it is.

The 11707 will interchange with any of the three stocks and allow the skeleton stock to collapse, yes. You'll love the shotgun, it rocks! Here is my 11707 with a collapsible stock installed. It is registered as an SBS to allow the short barrel and stock to be legally installed. http://www.survivingtwilight.com/images/Guns/M4_ENTRY.JPG

You'll need a model 11707 in order to have your installed collapsible stock actually collapse. The other models will allow the skeleton stock to be installed but won't allow the stock to collapse. The model M1014 (with american flag engraved on receiver) will come with a collapsible stock from the factory. While it won't collapse on the 1014, if you remove this stock and put it on an 11707 it will collapse just fine. The guys from LE Sales USA have a decent price on the 11707 ($1429), and also offer to sell the shotgun and the collapsible stock for yet again a decent price ($2064). I purchased mine from them a year and a half ago and it arrived minty fresh. You can talk with a reputable dealer and make sure there aren't any scratches on the weapon you are agreeing to purchase. Buy it on a credit card and you have an 800 lb gorilla on your side in case something goes wrong. Often times this is worth the extra 3% as insurance. http://www.lesalesusa.com/products/benelli.htm I agree with one of the above posters, why spend substantially more money for a firearm locally if you can get it elsewhere for less? Shipping and transfer fee shouldn't run you more than $40 total. The M4 doesn't come from the factory with a sling or case. These are extras you'll have to buy.

I've been emailed that Numrich Gun parts has the barrel for $827 online. I am aware of this. After spending 30 minutes calling shops, I've managed to find a barrel as low as $565. The highest I was quoted was $760. If you are looking for a replacement barrel (or one to have cut down into a 14" for an entry model, etc.) do yourself a favor and start calling Benelli dealers in your area. You'll save dough over buying from Numrich. I thought it would be worth the time to see if anyone had access to one not currently being used before buying one from my best price shop.

It is a toss up between using it to stuff sausage casings and using it on my M4 for skeet shooting when the range with my 14" just doesn't cut it.

I'm looking for an 18.5" factory barrel. Anyone have one for sale? Please let me know what you have, round count and asking price. Doesn't have to be immaculate. Thanks! [email protected]

Awesome, good job on maximizing your return No F-Bdy! There seems to be an element on here that starts ranting like a lunatic anytime somebody tries to sell something for more than said element believes it should be sold for. I went through this same BS a while back: A user posts in support of getting every dollar you can for your item, then the sadsacks come out of the woodwork yelling "Gougity gouge gouging price GOUGER!" Why on Earth would No F-bdy (or any sane person) not try to get as much for their goods as possible? Just because you post on the same forum? That is laughable. Hmmm, would I rather have an extra $100 in my bank account or some random person's on this forum? Given the choice, I'll let my account receive the windfall every time. I give my money to charities and churches, not random internet acquaintances. I suspect most other rational beings operate under the same principle.

Both the 11707 and the M1014 will allow the collapsible stock to be fixed to the weapon. The 11707 will allow that collapsible stock to collapse though, wherease the M1014 will not - it will be fixed in the open position. The recoil tube is the difference. The 11707 comes with a recoil tube with additional cuts in the tube to allow the collapsible stock to actually collapse. The M1014 has a smooth tube that will accept the collapsible stock, but will not allow it to collapse. The stock that the M1014 comes with is the real deal collapsible stock, but the recoil tube is the lame-o limiting factor that prevents the stock from collapsing up to the shotgun body. Take that stock off your M1014 and put it on an 11707 and you are in business. I've run into the rumor many times that the collapsible stock that comes with the M1014 can't collapse even on an 11707. This is total bullarcky. I've purchased multiple M1014s specifically for parting out the collapsible stock when prices were insane earlier in the year. Having a nice assortment of M4's in multiple configurations now is just a side benefit. I think there is a thread on this site talking about Numrich gun parts and how they sell a recoil tube with the cuts in it so you can switch tubes on the M1014 or other non collapsing M4 models to allow them to fully collapse the collapsible stock.

As the title implies, you better either be very patient or a bit lucky to track one down. I've tried to track one down since February and had one come up for sale (a guy on this board alerted me) for a great price and I missed it by 5 minutes. There are a couple others that I found out there, but they are asking $2300 and up for them. I've been on three wait lists since then with no luck. The dealers I've spoken with that have gotten them in ran a lead time of about 9-15 months from order placement to fulfillment. I got sick of waiting and found a smith to cut my M4 18.5" barrel down to entry 14" length. Three weeks after he did one for me he retired. My suggestion is to call any smith you can and ask them if they are interested in doing the conversion. I took the M4 entry conversion out shooting skeet this past weekend and it was a clay dusting monster within about 20-25 yards. Get past that and the pattern really opens up. But damn was it awesome to waste 6 clays in the span of about 4 seconds.

Thanks to John in Saint Peters for a quick reply. Got my limiter tube. Thanks!

Hello, I wanted to see if anybody had an excellent condition dummy tube extension from their M4 that they would be interested in selling. If you have the dummy extension tube lying around, I'd be happy to buy it off of you. I'm offering $15 but will entertain counter offers from any of you that have one to part with. Thanks a bunch! Shane

Well isn't that just cool! I always just did a quick field strip and assumed the bolt assy needed to be removed prior to removing the trigger frame. I learned something new today!

This seems to be a pretty common occurrence. People assume that the stock comes off the Benelli much like a Mossberg or Remington so they start demolishing the buttpad and stock internals to get the stock off. WRONG! Carefully put all of your parts back on the stock, and then proceed to remove the barrel, handguards, bolt assembly and trigger frame. Once the trigger frame is removed the entire stock assembly unscrews from the receiver. It is a very easy, tool-less disassembly.

Hmm, my NoDak tube will NOT allow the barrel to slide over it and must be removed to take off the barrel. At least one other person here has said their NoDak extension will allow the barrel to slide over it. Sounds like their are variations in the lots of NoDak tubes. I called the seller to ask about this and his reply was "all the tubes were made to the same spec, call the maker at ###-#### and speak with him about it." My factory dummy extension tube and factory +2 tubes both allow the barrel to slide over them. My NoDak does not. Sounds like you are rolling the dice on whether or not the NoDak will allow your barrel to slide over it since some here can and some here can't.

I purchased one of the steel NoDak Spud tubes. I had a Benelli factory +2 tube to compare it to. The Benelli +2 tube allows the barrel to be removed without removing the extension. The NoDak Spud tube does not. You have to remove the NoDak tube to remove the barrel. Pain in the rear. It functions the same, looks the same, but is heavier and requires removal before the barrel can come off.

I haven't shot it yet, so not sure about the POI. I would assume unchanged. It looks like a factory barrel. Great work. Lastly - the tarriff on this thing? Am I missing something? I had my 18.5" barrel modded by a US gunsmith, there was no tarriff. Shane A. Bernskoetter Author of: Surviving Twilight: A Soldier's Chronicle of Daily Life in Iraq http://www.survivingtwilight.com

I just sent the original 18.5" factory barrel and a copy of my approved Form 1 into the shop doing the mod. Three weeks later I received the barrel back. I don't see much point in keeping multiple barrels, stocks and the like to make sure my gun can be some jack of all trades thing. I like to select a function (SBS fun gun, Skeet shooter, Game hunting, etc) and stick with it. I used to keep all manner of barrels, stocks, mag tubes, extension tubes, pouches, hardware, cases, optics, etc. for all my weapons until I realized I had a mountain of crap down in my basement that was good for cashing in for at least another few weapons that would actually be used. When years would pass and I never used that "spare barrel for just in case I need a long barrel or spare optic, etc. someday" I realized it was a waste and Gunbroker and Ebay became my friends again. Shane A. Bernskoetter Author of: Surviving Twilight: A Soldier's Chronicle of Daily Life in Iraq http://www.survivingtwilight.com

Engraved on the right side. My goal was to keep one M4 in the entry configuration, the other in a full length tube and full size stock configuration for skeet shooting! With the entry gun, it is a super simple swap back to the full size gun. Simply screw on the limiter, slide the new barrel in place and screw on the mag tub cap. Done. Shane A. Bernskoetter Author of: Surviving Twilight: A Soldier's Chronicle of Daily Life in Iraq http://www.survivingtwilight.com

The magazine tube simply has the factory included dummy limiter extension unscrewed from the end. The 14" barrel then slides on and the magazine retention screw cap threads directly onto the end of the tube - using the threads previously occupied by the limiter. The tube holds the full 5 rounds just like when it came from the factory. Shane A. Bernskoetter Author of: Surviving Twilight: A Soldier's Chronicle of Daily Life in Iraq http://www.survivingtwilight.com

I promised a little while back that I would post pictures of my completed Benelli M4 entry gun once I had the 18.5" barrel cut down to a 14" entry length. I received the barrel back and was very pleased with the workmanship. The returned barrel looks like a factory part! I've included a few pictures of the firearm, with a couple of barrel closeups. This weapon started life as an M4 model 11707 with pistol grip stock and 18.5" barrel. I registered it as an SBS and proceeded to add the collapsible stock and then searched high and low and finally found a place willing to cut the 18.5" barrel down to 14", and did they ever do a fantastic job. The shop that did the job was Lowe's Certified Guns. Their web address for contact information is: http://www.lowescertifiedguns.com/gunsmithing/aboutus.htm Here are the pictures for you to see the result yourself. For anybody wanting to convert their M4 into the Entry version, give these guys a call! Shane A. Bernskoetter Author of: Surviving Twilight: A Soldier's Chronicle of Daily Life in Iraq http://www.survivingtwilight.com

Just remember that for $200 and some paperwork you can put the gun on a Form 1 as a registered NFA weapon and ignore all 922r regulations. Might be worthwhile if your state allows it before you go and sell all your cool parts. You can also remove the gun from the NFA registry for free and sell it in its original configuration if you ever decide to offload it. The questions is, is it worth $200 one time payment to be able to put all the cool accessories on your M4? Shane A. Bernskoetter Author of: Surviving Twilight: A Soldier's Chronicle of Daily Life in Iraq http://www.survivingtwilight.com

Lawman, sounds like you really like the EOTech. I had a Tasco holosight (which I thought was the basic patented design that EOTech bought from Tasco) and it wasn't bad, but it didn't seem all that great as in broad daylight the reticle got washed out even on highest power with new batteries. Has the EOTech managed to overcome this? Since they are smaller than the old Holosights, if they are as good as you say I may have to take another look at them. That top rail is just crying out for an optical accessory. Shane A. Bernskoetter Author of: Surviving Twilight: A Soldier's Chronicle of Daily Life in Iraq http://www.survivingtwilight.com