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Buck listed patterned very even from my M4 (not the same lot number obviously, same product number). The PP slugs were accurate too. GL on sale, quality items/good prices.

Looks good, the spring--not so much. I would get the spring from Kip, personally.

Kip called me as well. I felt bad explaining to a former Marine why I was asleep at 0930. Sheepish.

There is no inertia system on the M4. The gas system IS the system. Not some "back-up".

all well and good then

Several M4C users who have used the M4S90 in combat say it ran like a sewing machine, although they didn't like it as they felt a breeching shotgun should have something other than a rubber pistol-grip and should be pump to cycle breeching loads. As far as function though, they said it was flawless.

-Fellow AR15.com user's experience dredged from the 2007 archives.

*86 the UTG, Duggan won't be happy.

I'm going to say the M4 is more consistantly reliable than the M2. I also plan on proving it, if you so require it.

+1 and yes, I can and have limp-wristed M4's, and yes, you can limp-wrist an M2, and yes I have fired my M4 with target loads from the hip, and yes it worked.

I can do flawless mag-dumps with 2.75 dram 1-1/8oz 1145fps STS Light Target ammo. My point isn't to prove that I can buy expensive target loads, but rather to show you that the M4 has a lot larger "performance window" than the M2. I want my weapon to have as large a performance window as possible to make up for the imperfect element of my human nature and blind circumstance. If you are comfortable with less "slack", as it were, more power to you.

Kip probably is knee-deep in PM's right now and I would guess he was just making sure you had not altered your order before he shipped it to you, assuming that he ships on schedual today.

Why have active cylinder control in a Z06? Why have windshield wipers on a Ferrari? Why do you walk anywhere when you could just run? Why would you take normal breaths of air when you can take deep manly breaths and hold it for a minute at a time? Why use toilet-paper when you could use benjamins? I don't understand why people think it is rediculous to want to practice with bird-shot, or simply go out and have some fun with it.

Explain that to the people who worked for Kip that could not keep a schedual.

"Working in manufacturing" and running a small machine-shop with just a few employees are two VERY different animals.

+1 I don't see how Kip's not meeting a deadline because his work-staff abandoned him is him taking advantage of you.

I feel that Kip is the kind of person who in the future will remember that he gave me 3 deadlines that he did not meet, and each time, I accepted it without getting too ruffled in public. Since I don't think that Kip did this on purpose, I think you have 1 of 2 options realistically: Ask for a refund and move on--or don't. However, asking for a refund now that the tubes are already done (confirmed, they are cut and ready for painting as of NOW) and just await painting, would be kindof dumb. By the time you got your inferior tube the rest of us will have our Ti tube. You can't get blood from a turnip and spurning Kip for not delivering on time won't make him deliver any faster.

Dime less? Are you aware of what next-day air costs? It ain't a dime over priority I promise you that. What do you think Kip should have done when someone refused to show up to work most of the time? Fire him? He did. Then he hired someone else, who also seemed to be full of fail. Fired and hired again. A machine-shop isn't like a lemonade stand, there is training time, etc. involved. A good machinist is worth more than any of those multi-thousand dollar machines he will use. A good machinist is worth his weight in gold and hard as **** to find. Like I said, I am not aplogizing for Kip, that's on him. I am stating however, that he is handling it the best he can be expected to.

You are overlooking a few things. I am by no means making excuses for Kip's delays, however, I am stating facts. Kip could not control what happened, and if you demand a component sooner, by all means that is your right and provelidge as a customer. Kip is getting you what he promised you, albeit late. Kip did not do this on purpose, and could not control the circumstances. Kip is not a large company and it is rediculous to expect him to overnight dozens of tubes. Kip is a small company, and by nature, things happen that are out of the control of small companies--such as employee's lying about their circumstances and leaving you high and dry. What we get BECAUSE he is a small company, in exchange for these inconveniences is: unprecedented QC. Almost instant concept to product times. 1:1 dealing with the owner of said company. It is a give/trade situation.

Please do so. If the spring sucks, order 1 from Kip, he has them on-hand.

http://www.nicindustries.com/images/techsheets/H-146%20Product%20Data%20071508.pdf PS. The price is now $236.

The problem occurs when one encounters grouses and not just a grouse. It will leave you grousing over your failure to have adequate firepower to go grousing.

Update from Kip (summarized and paraphrased by my) on Ti tube orders: Lots of tubes waiting to be painted. They were NOT painted today due to 80% humidity (optimal is less than 70%). They are expected to be painted AND shipped tomorrow. Shipped labels printed before midnight tonight. This is in reference to all April orders. Rails are finished except for the contouring of the bottom. A custom tool is being made and Kip needs a day to drive and have it made (it will be made while he waits, he will have it that day). His schedual has thus precluded him from making that trip, but it's coming soon. The recoil reducers are done. They are waiting to be anodized. They will be anodized at the same time as the rails will be. This is all the information that I have gleaned for public consumption ETA: The reason for the delays on the Ti tubes are related to Kip's dedication to tolerances and his trouble with finding reliably punctual workers to operate his machinery to those standards. I would rather have the tube late than have the tube half-assed. Good call.

You will not get the weapon hot enough in that are just by firing it. Yes, the mag-tube is prone to loosening. My factory mag-tube was removed, then put back in sans lok-tite to do some patterning as Kip's tube is behind schedual. I found I had to progressively tighten the end-cap and eventually tighten the mag-tube (the root of the loosening). I suppose after 5-700 rounds it COULD have launched itself. Did not test to failure.

Well, most "gas" autos are piston autos. They vary a bit, but if you are mechanically savvy, you can take yours apart and understand it I bet. From what you have told me, you aren't in any danger of not putting it back togather correct again, so take it apart and see what you can learn. It might end up being self-exclamatory for all you know.