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You are overlooking a few things. I am by no means making excuses for Kip's delays, however, I am stating facts. Kip could not control what happened, and if you demand a component sooner, by all means that is your right and provelidge as a customer. Kip is getting you what he promised you, albeit late. Kip did not do this on purpose, and could not control the circumstances. Kip is not a large company and it is rediculous to expect him to overnight dozens of tubes. Kip is a small company, and by nature, things happen that are out of the control of small companies--such as employee's lying about their circumstances and leaving you high and dry. What we get BECAUSE he is a small company, in exchange for these inconveniences is: unprecedented QC. Almost instant concept to product times. 1:1 dealing with the owner of said company. It is a give/trade situation.

Please do so. If the spring sucks, order 1 from Kip, he has them on-hand.

http://www.nicindustries.com/images/techsheets/H-146%20Product%20Data%20071508.pdf PS. The price is now $236.

The problem occurs when one encounters grouses and not just a grouse. It will leave you grousing over your failure to have adequate firepower to go grousing.

Update from Kip (summarized and paraphrased by my) on Ti tube orders: Lots of tubes waiting to be painted. They were NOT painted today due to 80% humidity (optimal is less than 70%). They are expected to be painted AND shipped tomorrow. Shipped labels printed before midnight tonight. This is in reference to all April orders. Rails are finished except for the contouring of the bottom. A custom tool is being made and Kip needs a day to drive and have it made (it will be made while he waits, he will have it that day). His schedual has thus precluded him from making that trip, but it's coming soon. The recoil reducers are done. They are waiting to be anodized. They will be anodized at the same time as the rails will be. This is all the information that I have gleaned for public consumption ETA: The reason for the delays on the Ti tubes are related to Kip's dedication to tolerances and his trouble with finding reliably punctual workers to operate his machinery to those standards. I would rather have the tube late than have the tube half-assed. Good call.

You will not get the weapon hot enough in that are just by firing it. Yes, the mag-tube is prone to loosening. My factory mag-tube was removed, then put back in sans lok-tite to do some patterning as Kip's tube is behind schedual. I found I had to progressively tighten the end-cap and eventually tighten the mag-tube (the root of the loosening). I suppose after 5-700 rounds it COULD have launched itself. Did not test to failure.

Well, most "gas" autos are piston autos. They vary a bit, but if you are mechanically savvy, you can take yours apart and understand it I bet. From what you have told me, you aren't in any danger of not putting it back togather correct again, so take it apart and see what you can learn. It might end up being self-exclamatory for all you know.

I am unable to source diagrams for you right now, however, if you are mechanically inclined, call the company and ask for them to send you a user's manual, or google it, or see if you can find the diagram on their website. Then take it apart yourself. I have found that taking something apart myself garners a better understanding than any reading could.

I wanted a shotgun that will feed anything I stuff in it. My M4 does that. Lets face it, you have poor 'smithing skills and don't feel comfortable taking a heat-gun to some lock-tite so you settled for a lesser weapon, sorry, but we could go round and round all day Well here you are rich man! This guy is offering the Benelli OEM part to do so. It is readily available and you are so bloody rich it doesn't matter apparently, so buy an M4 and this guy's extension already! I am amused at how all you focus on is money and calling people cheap while extolling your own riches, yet every major purchase you have made that you have told us about is not top of the line.

I use LaRue MG oil. I ran 2.75 dram stuff my first time out and it did great.

I have, but VERY rarely. ETA, what bolt-handle are you using?

www.tinypic.com Self exclamatory.

Built more heavy-duty. Cycles light loads more reliably. Has better re-sale value. Has a collapsible stock option. Soaks up recoil better. Prevents people from cracking jokes about you being an M2 owner when you could have had an M4 if you used your basic mechanical skills. I wouldn't buy a Z06 so I could beat an escort by 2 more cars than your Z51. I would buy a Z06 so I could beat your Z51 by well over 2 cars.

Numrich has a tube for $104 that I used on my last M4, but this tube looks pretty darn good! I am still waiting on my tube from Kip though. If you get this tube, weigh it. THen someone needs to weigh the SOCOMguy tube, and Kip has already weighed his tube. I am curious as to the weights.

True, and you may get a taker here, however, most people here (Excluding Cody6.0) opt for full-length tubes. That isn't to say you WON'T sell it here, but just that it is more LIKELY that you will sell it there.

I would suggest selling it to Cody6.0 when he buys a Benelli M4 because his M2 isn't as good. That way he can just screw it on, it will be OEM, and he won't have the heat the *#!& out of a $1500 shotgun to replace the mag-tube. -Or gun-broker or ar15.com. Gun-broker would be #1 imho though.

Well, nevermind that then. Yes, I am a die-hard KISS fan. I love gadgets, but they are all KISS gadgets, lol. I find the thought of never dicking around with chokes nice. Find a load, stick with it. Done. One less removable part. Win.

Looking foreward to installing my tube next week.

Now you are selling an un-opened identical item? I am confused.

Did you see the one that sold on here for $120 a few days ago? Oh wait. That was you who bought it.

I wish I could have gotten an 11707 w/2-port and fixed choke. ****, I am tempted to offer to swap barrel/assy's assuming the piston design has not been altered or anything else.

Is that a 2-port barrel and fixed MOD choke?

I dunno, never had a Benelli IC choke. Why do you ask?

Called Briley, they said I can shoot whatever I want through their flush-fit IM choke (apparently it is stronger that Trulock's or Benelli's. I grilled 2 Briley tech's on 2 separate phone-calls about the issue. THey both said steel, whatever was fine in it. I even told them of the Trulock warning I recieved when I called. THey said they FULLY UNDERSTOOD my question, and yes, steel/tungsten/Hevi was fine!), steel, Tungsten, whatever. (Except a sabot slug or solid-type slug). I will test this along with the MOD choke when I get my magazine tube from KIP and post the 50-yard results. I have every commercial buckshot load I could find at wal-mart and Bass-Pro (about 8 different rounds). I have some posterboard I will test with Sorry for the post with no proof, I'm just excited and want to run my mouth.

Different chokes pattern differently. I have had as much as 2-3" difference between choke-tubes from manufacturer to manufacturer with my M4S90 at 50 yards sighting in slugs.