John Doe

I think you are correct. And no, you don't sound harsh, you are just telling the truth sir.

I think he got it right this time. I posted part one here if you want to check that out, or just follow the links on YouTube. The first one was a complete failure, but as he mentions in this video, it was a failure because the installation of the aftermarket parts was not done correctly. Anyway, I would like to hear you guys out on this and what you think.

If you are looking to trade maybe we can figure something out. I wanted the H20, but I could only get the black one. I have had it for about 6 months now maybe less. I have no mods on it with the exception of the Blue Force sling and it is in perfect condition. I am willing to trade with you and maybe throw a couple more dollars at you for the mod parts if you are interested.

Welp. Not as good as op says it is. Figures. But hey, at least he has more optics than all of us combined so he can always switch back to one of those lol.

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Cool article. I guess "Mr. Gunsmith" with more optics than sense has absolutely no idea what he is talking about. Thanks for the info!

Yes, sir. Lesson learned.

How do you like it? I was looking at the FFT one myself. Are they all pretty much the same? Are there any major differences between them?

Colion Noir just release this new video of some upgrades he did on his M4. Just wanted to see what you all thought about it and the things he did to his and if he made the right choices or where he could have gone another route. Love to hear your guy's thoughts on this and what you have done to your own M4's.

So, instead of answering a question to somebody who is new to shotguns, you revert to insulting me. Wow. You are a real stand-up guy huh?

Umm, ok. So, I guess I will ask again as to why you think that way about EO Techs. Is it because of the size? The EXPS3's are not that terribly big in my opinion, but I would still like to know as to what other reason one would have to not put one on an M4.

Hi, so I asked you this question on another post. But just curious as to why is the Vortex Defender better than say the EO Tech other than price? Is the glass cleaner? Is the dot clearer or brighter? Better controls? Longer battery life? How has the Vortex worked for you so far? I love Vortex and own a bunch of Vortex glass from scopes to red dots, range finders, and binos, so it would be nice to stay with them, but not all their glass is the best. What say you sir?

🤣🤣🤣 What's wrong with an EO Tech on a shotgun??? I was actually considering it, but what would be your reasoning for not doing so and what would be your recommendation for a sighting system? I ask this question with good intent, as I just bought my M4 recently and do not know what the best sighting system would be. I see lots of people putting all kinds of different optics, but EO Tech seems to be a favorite. What say you?

I am with you on this. I have recently bought an M4 and I have been doing a bunch of research on it myself. I personally am getting the Brily handguard and a non-rotating charging handle. Briley because it covers the barrel on top for the most part. Let us know what you end up choosing and post pics. Lots of pics lol.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OBcPcqsiDhY Just watched this video from TFB TV. Was wondering what you guys think. I found it very interesting that this happened.

I use the Blue Force Gear Vickers Sling unpadded for my Benelli M4. It works great and does its job with no issues. Now for rifles, I suggest the Magpul MS4 QDM all day. That is an amazing sling for rifles and would never use anything else on it. I tried swapping them and it just felt wrong. Can you use the Magpul on the M4 and the Vickers on the rifle, of course, but to me, the Vickers just felt way better on the M4. Don't ask me why lol.

It is my understanding that it is just a "special edition" variant. As far as I know, there are no mechanical differences between the ones with and without. I could be mistaken though, but that is my understanding of it. Welcome to the forum!

Any pics? I tried looking up what they look like, but I can't seem to find this anywhere. I was thinking of getting the Aridus quick detach holder with a couple extra, but I would be interested to know what this one is.

Freedom Fighter Tactical does a whole video on this subject that might be useful. I know what you mean about being a "noob" to these beautiful weapons. I just recently bought a new M4 and I am still learning everything about them. So hopefully this will help.

I suppose that is subjective. I am a large, strong man that lifts weights, so 7.8 lbs to me is pretty light. If you are a smaller or physically weaker man or a woman then I can see that being heavy(please do not take offense I don't mean to say that in a derogatory way), but is that the only reason why the M2 is better for 3 gun than the m4? Does it cycle faster or have some other benefits other than being lighter? I ask out of curiosity as I have never handled nor shot the M2 and you make mention of this in your comment. Thank you! 🙂

Well, the job I expect it to do is home/self-defense. I and many others that I have seen that buy this weapon use it for that. As well as just plinking with it and shooting clay etc. I am not sure what you mean by that. What is "pretend practicing"? Every time you shoot a firearm it is practice unless you are just going out and dumping rounds into the ground, which I don't know who does that, but I am sure some people do but that is such a small minority and is the exception. I don't know about that. People use it as I have mentioned for home/self-defense, hunting, and target practice, I have seen some people say they use it for 3 gun, law enforcement, and military, etc. So, I don't know if I fully agree with you on that comment. Definitely agree with you on that one lol. Thanks for your post and input on the subject. Hope to talk to you more! 🙂

Why? Is the M2 lighter or something? I have never shot or handled the M2 so I am curious about it. I just recently bought the M4 and to be honest it feels pretty light and handles great even when shooting slugs and heavy buck rounds. Thanks!

I found some other posts here on the site that answer this question. If you use the search bar here on the site or Google the question it will come up for you. Hope this helps!🙂

The only ones I can find are the OEM parts on FFT and Midwest gun works. I haven't seen any upgraded aftermarket parts for them. I know it sucks that these companies don't sell them individually, but I am sure they have their reasons. If you do find a good one please let us know.

I have never really been a shotgun guy, yes I have owned them and the very first gun I ever purchased was a Remington 870. Yet, I never really looked at them in any serious manner. I had a very flawed view of what they are and the effects it has in combat or self-defense. I just thought of them as a range toy that should never be taken seriously. I have always been a rifle and pistol guy, even building my own AR-type rifles and having a CCW, and carrying the best pistol ever created, 1911, every day with tons of practice and training with both those platforms. Until recently, I witnessed the absolutely devasting effects the shotgun has and the ability to use it for self-defense in an extremely accurate and proficient way. This is what lead me down the shotgun rabbit hole. The more I have studied and researched shotguns and the ability to use them in ways I never thought possible made me reevaluate how I look at shotguns. When going down this rabbit hole the one shotgun that kept coming up over and over was the Benelli M4. Everything about it shows it as being the most effective tool for the job. So, I thought let me get one and judge for myself, and so I just bought one and have been a proud owner of it for two days now lol. I have already put 100 rounds of various ammo through it of course with your guy's help with the proper choke as well, and I must say I am very very impressed with its abilities. I did not come into this with a biased view or a "favorite brand" when I got this shotgun. To be honest, it was between the M4 and the Mossberg 940 JM Pro, which was made by this shotgun shooting competition guy named Jerry Miculek. In the end, after doing all the comparisons and research I chose the M4 and do not regret it for one second. My 14-year-old daughter shot it as well and is now her favorite firearm in my collection. All that being said, I think people come into this with a tribalistic view. They have been shooting "x" guns for their whole lives and nothing will ever be better than it no matter what. I completely understand that as I do tend to have a bias towards certain types of firearms and rifles, yet with shotguns, I had no mind towards one brand or another or which type over another. I just wanted what has been proven reliable and has a history of continued use with positive outcomes. People also like to be contrarians and what to go against what is popular or what people say is the best, simply to be different, and that is fine to a point. When you start to overlook or deny the facts then you are only hurting yourself. The other thing that comes up is that people will follow their favorite Youtuber and take their advice or copy and mimic them to a nauseating end and ignore what everyone else says simply because "Joe Blow on Youtube said x,y,z, and I trust and believe him/her no matter what anybody else says". As I do not have experience with all the different makes and models of all the shotguns out there I can say this. The Benelli M4 so far for me has been a wonderful firearm when I have shot it and it has gone far beyond what my expectations are of what a shotgun is and what a well-built shotgun can do. I plan on taking some classes here soon to get better trained with it and learn from people who are further down the road than I on how to correctly operate and manipulate this awesome piece of machinery. I hope to learn more from you all as well I have found some great information on this website that has helped me better understand this firearm and I thank you all for that.