mosley128 Posted December 1, 2009 Posted December 1, 2009 So I'm looking forward to upgrading my spankin' new M4, and have heard from a couple places that Kip makes the best tubes... Is this the general consensus around here? Also, I've googled it, and cannot find his place of business... Apparently "Kip titanium tube" is not thorough enough. Does anyone have a link? Is there any chance of me actually GETTING one before new years? Also (to avoid a seperate posting) I asked about moving the sling mount on the barrel of my M4, and someone on these forums said you could simply do it with a pair of pliers. Obviously I am a little wary of wielding a pair of pliers around my new toy, I really just don't want to break what LOOKS to be a pretty easy-to-break piece of metal. Any advice? Quote
BigHat Posted December 1, 2009 Posted December 1, 2009 Just be patient. It is the best, but it may take a loooooong time to reach you. Great tube maker but as a businessman he leaves a lot to be desired. Quote
Sukhoi_fan Posted December 1, 2009 Posted December 1, 2009 So I'm looking forward to upgrading my spankin' new M4, and have heard from a couple places that Kip makes the best tubes... Is this the general consensus around here? Also, I've googled it, and cannot find his place of business... Apparently "Kip titanium tube" is not thorough enough. Does anyone have a link? Is there any chance of me actually GETTING one before new years? Also (to avoid a seperate posting) I asked about moving the sling mount on the barrel of my M4, and someone on these forums said you could simply do it with a pair of pliers. Obviously I am a little wary of wielding a pair of pliers around my new toy, I really just don't want to break what LOOKS to be a pretty easy-to-break piece of metal. Any advice? You need 'snap ring pliers' a specialty tool, NOT your run of the mill pliers. I got a pair made by Channellock which convert to both inner and outer snap rings and come with different size tip for less then $20 at bLowe's. Used mine on both the tiny snap ring for the retaining spring for the axle bush and the large snap ring for the sling attachment. http://www.northerntool.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_6970_200308959_200308959 Quote
mosley128 Posted December 1, 2009 Author Posted December 1, 2009 Ah, I see, thank you Sukhoi. I'm assuming you simply insert the two prongs on the pliers, and pull them apart? This will not bend the metal? And thank you for the link to Kip's tubes. Nobody knows about how long the backorder is, though? Quote
StrangerDanger Posted December 1, 2009 Posted December 1, 2009 The snap ring is meant to flex. Kip may not respond for a while. He's on some road trip to pick up some equipment. I'm awaiting a second tube myself. It was supposed to be shipped a month ago. Maybe it is in the mail, who knows. There is no better tube though. So grin and bare it. Quote
Unobtanium Posted December 1, 2009 Posted December 1, 2009 Just be patient. It is the best, but it may take a loooooong time to reach you. Great tube maker but as a businessman he leaves a lot to be desired. Kip is catching up and last I checked was on a 1-3 week delivery time. Could have changed, but thats the last I saw. *reading the above I stand corrected. Quote
mbettez Posted December 1, 2009 Posted December 1, 2009 I'm hoping lead time isn't too long since I just bought one. The parkerized is the color to match the gun, correct? Quote
Unobtanium Posted December 1, 2009 Posted December 1, 2009 I'm hoping lead time isn't too long since I just bought one. The parkerized is the color to match the gun, correct? Correct, and it does so as advertised. Quote
StrangerDanger Posted December 1, 2009 Posted December 1, 2009 The patina of the M4 varies throughout different production runs. http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2485/4116275541_9ff4eb7a5e_b.jpg Here is a shot of the ti tube. You can see the difference from the barrel. It is barely noticable. Quote
ROCKETW19 Posted December 1, 2009 Posted December 1, 2009 Kip is catching up and last I checked was on a 1-3 week delivery time. Could have changed, but thats the last I saw. *reading the above I stand corrected. Ya I am a month in also. he never charged my debit card though? I emailed him a week ago no responce yet. I am glad though I dont like the color match on the Tan for the camo one and now want to go with a black one. Quote
mosley128 Posted December 1, 2009 Author Posted December 1, 2009 Are you all sure the parkarized is the one that matches the rest of the gun? This link looks like it does not: http://shop.carriercomp.com/product.sc?productId=3&categoryId=4 However this one does, but it not the parkarized version: http://shop.carriercomp.com/product.sc?productId=5&categoryId=4 Quote
mbettez Posted December 1, 2009 Posted December 1, 2009 well damn, I just spent an hour researching the stupid gun laws in my state (Massachusetts) and apparently I can't have both a pistol grip and a magazine that will hold more than 5 rounds. I hate this stupid state. Now I have to decide if I should keep the gun as is and cancel this order or look for a non-pistol grip stock. Quote
mosley128 Posted December 1, 2009 Author Posted December 1, 2009 I don't suppose you saw a listing for Missouri to see if it's legal, or know the website where you found it? Quote
mbettez Posted December 1, 2009 Posted December 1, 2009 The site where I found the info was Mass specific, sorry. Basically Mass has the same rediculous laws as Cali. I need to move. Quote
mosley128 Posted December 1, 2009 Author Posted December 1, 2009 That sucks... I called out local sheriff and he basically said he had no clue if it was legal or not, but he "thought probably not" and I can't find anything online saying it ISN'T legal, but I would certainly like to know for sure before I start upgrading my gun. It's stupid that you can't find these things out with ease. Quote
ROCKETW19 Posted December 1, 2009 Posted December 1, 2009 The site where I found the info was Mass specific, sorry. Basically Mass has the same rediculous laws as Cali. I need to move. almost we can have up to 10 rounds! Quote
mbettez Posted December 1, 2009 Posted December 1, 2009 and a pistol grip? Damn you're lucky. Mass laws is 10 rounds for rifles but specificially limits shot guns to 5rds with pistol grip. This is all only for semi-auto, pumps aren't included. Quote
Unobtanium Posted December 1, 2009 Posted December 1, 2009 Lame, we can own anything not prohibited by federal law here. Silencers, full auto, etc. etc. Quote
ROCKETW19 Posted December 1, 2009 Posted December 1, 2009 Lame, we can own anything not prohibited by federal law here. Silencers, full auto, etc. etc. Your not in CA? Quote
Unobtanium Posted December 1, 2009 Posted December 1, 2009 Your not in CA? No, I do not live in a communist state. Quote
ROCKETW19 Posted December 1, 2009 Posted December 1, 2009 No, I do not live in a communist state. LOL, ******* Quote
jojunior Posted December 1, 2009 Posted December 1, 2009 Cool rail on your M4! More pics please. Quote
Hookster Posted December 2, 2009 Posted December 2, 2009 Cool rail on your M4! More pics please. Here ya go jojunior. Lotsa pics in this thread but these are pre-FL tube. http://www.benelliusa.com/forum/showthread.php?t=19942&highlight=surefire+m80 Later, Hookster Quote
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