Medic650 Posted June 8, 2013 Share Posted June 8, 2013 I thought ghost loading was possible with the M4. Just picked up a new M4 and when I was assembling it, I noticed the notch on bottom of bolt carrier. Sure enough, can't ghost load a shell onto carrier. The H2O I used to have would allow ghost loading so I was surprised. Next question, grind out the notch or fill it in with weld to allow ghost loading. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roofless Posted June 8, 2013 Share Posted June 8, 2013 Can you upload a pic of the notch? I would be interested in seeing what you are seeing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Medic650 Posted June 9, 2013 Author Share Posted June 9, 2013 My old HK import M1 and the H2O I had didn't have this notch in the carrier and would ghost load. This look like the spot on M2's that is modified to ghost load for 3 gun, I think! [ATTACH=CONFIG]2165[/ATTACH] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SweetM4 Posted June 9, 2013 Share Posted June 9, 2013 (edited) I can ghost load my Benelli M4 no problem. Watch this video I found on youtube. Maybe it will help. http://youtu.be/lHKRsiJKJP4 Edited June 9, 2013 by SweetM4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tangy003 Posted June 9, 2013 Share Posted June 9, 2013 What is the purpose of ghost loading ?Just curious.Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
s10gto Posted June 9, 2013 Share Posted June 9, 2013 It is just for another shell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Medic650 Posted June 9, 2013 Author Share Posted June 9, 2013 I've ghost loaded for years, but the Benelli I have that ghost loads doesn't have a notch, shown in picture, that engages the shell carrier like my new M4 does. May be something new on civilian M4's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SgtCathy Posted June 9, 2013 Share Posted June 9, 2013 For many years I've been reading about Ghost Loading Benelli's. If you like to fool around at the range, then by all means have fun with that "extra round". If you depend on your Benelli to save your life or your families, then DON'T. Ghost Loading an extra shell works sometimes but mostly will jam up your shotgun. Once it's jammed, your done. You can't ask a criminal to please wait while you disasemble and put back together your Benelli. If you're trying to save your life and you haven't ended "the dance" with one or two shots, then I hope you have life insurance. Again, if you're fooling around at the range, get the +2 magazine extension, Ghost Load your Benelli and buy the speed load attachment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tangy003 Posted June 9, 2013 Share Posted June 9, 2013 For many years I've been reading about Ghost Loading Benelli's. If you like to fool around at the range, then by all means have fun with that "extra round". If you depend on your Benelli to save your life or your families, then DON'T. Ghost Loading an extra shell works sometimes but mostly will jam up your shotgun. Once it's jammed, your done. You can't ask a criminal to please wait while you disasemble and put back together your Benelli. If you're trying to save your life and you haven't ended "the dance" with one or two shots, then I hope you have life insurance. Again, if you're fooling around at the range, get the +2 magazine extension, Ghost Load your Benelli and buy the speed load attachment. SGTCATHY.....well said about the ghost loading.As I'm sure you know.most confrontations with police and the bad guy end in one round from a 12 ga. anyway.(some stats I read awhile back) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Medic650 Posted June 9, 2013 Author Share Posted June 9, 2013 For many years I've been reading about Ghost Loading Benelli's. If you like to fool around at the range, then by all means have fun with that "extra round". If you depend on your Benelli to save your life or your families, then DON'T. Ghost Loading an extra shell works sometimes but mostly will jam up your shotgun. Once it's jammed, your done. You can't ask a criminal to please wait while you disasemble and put back together your Benelli. If you're trying to save your life and you haven't ended "the dance" with one or two shots, then I hope you have life insurance. Again, if you're fooling around at the range, get the +2 magazine extension, Ghost Load your Benelli and buy the speed load attachment. In a tactical situation I agree. Obviously the original design of Benelli allowed the ghost loading. Sometime after HK quit importing Benellis, a change was made to stop the ability to do so. One time I was told by a Benelli rep it was to satisfy wildlife management. That way for game or areas that limited magazine capacity to two rounds a shooter couldn't cheat and load an extra round on the carrier. In 20 + years I have never had a jam or failure due to ghost loading in even the most extreme hunting conditions with my early M1 or early generation Super Blackeagle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roofless Posted June 9, 2013 Share Posted June 9, 2013 My M4 ghost loads. It is a month old and was fresh stock from Benelli. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skydiverman Posted June 9, 2013 Share Posted June 9, 2013 My 1014 Ghost loads no problem.. of course its almost 10 years old now tho... 11701. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rock7 Posted June 10, 2013 Share Posted June 10, 2013 Mine is about 6 months old and it works fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M4Whore Posted June 10, 2013 Share Posted June 10, 2013 I have the same "notch" on my bolt. No problem GLoading my 2012 M4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangerDanger Posted June 10, 2013 Share Posted June 10, 2013 The bottom notch on the M4's bolt carrier is for actuating the breech latch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoadDad Posted June 13, 2013 Share Posted June 13, 2013 For many years I've been reading about Ghost Loading Benelli's. If you like to fool around at the range, then by all means have fun with that "extra round". If you depend on your Benelli to save your life or your families, then DON'T. Ghost Loading an extra shell works sometimes but mostly will jam up your shotgun. Once it's jammed, your done. You can't ask a criminal to please wait while you disasemble and put back together your Benelli. If you're trying to save your life and you haven't ended "the dance" with one or two shots, then I hope you have life insurance. Again, if you're fooling around at the range, get the +2 magazine extension, Ghost Load your Benelli and buy the speed load attachment. USMC carrier loads. I don't know of a time that my HD needs for reliability with multiple shells would exceed that of the active duty Marines during combat. I have gone through several thousand carrier loads without a single hitch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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