ohbejuan Posted November 14, 2014 Author Posted November 14, 2014 Straight Benelli M4: Added a Surefire Foreend (US) w/Larue Index Clips and Tape Switch Carriercomp 7 Round Ti mag tube (US) FFT follower (US) Sidearmor top rail/side saddle GG&G Bolt Release Pad Benelli Collapsible Stock (Non-US) (StrangerDanger) did the trigger work adding: FFT trigger (US) FFT disconnector (US) Geissele Hammer (US) TTI Extended Shell Lifter Robar did the full NP3+ on the entire thing (just got it back today) Pictures came out only so-so, but I think it turned out to be a beautiful piece so far. Hopefully I can add one of those Leupold Deltapoint Pro's next spring Quote
StrangerDanger Posted November 14, 2014 Posted November 14, 2014 Outstanding. How does the M4 feel? Does it sound any different when chambering? Did they do the entire barrel assembly, or did they only dip the barrel itself and leave the portion that goes inside of the receiver alone? Did the coat the shell elevator? Does the safety feel any different with it coated? Any tightness detected in either the trigger group or in the pistons? Did the disassemble and coat the ARGO plugs? Your build is better than an H2O since it was done in NP3+. You have a lot more done too. Quote
ohbejuan Posted November 14, 2014 Author Posted November 14, 2014 I think it came out pretty awesome. The finish on the handguard holder is a little bit rough, but the rest of the finish overall is as smooth as you could imagine. I didn't notice any particular sound difference, but then again, I probably have about 20-25 rounds through this thing since I bought it, so I'm no expert! As far as I can tell on the barrel it looks like it's coated all the way back to (and including) the throat of the barrel. The thread (protector?) looks like it's coated as well from what I can tell The shell elevator is coated, the trigger is coated, trigger guard is coated, shell release is coated, pretty much every part. Pretty much every screw is coated as well. I haven't dry-fired it yet (or disassembled) for that matter. They did apply a little lube to the bolt from what I can see but I need to get it apart and add my own coat as well ARGO plugs is a term I'm not familiar with, I'll be glad to take a look on that one. They did impress me with the dis-assembly and re-assembly. They even put the sticky back felt padding back on the back of the GG&G bolt release on install (including coating the bolt release and the screw). Additionally, I asked them to coat the original bolt release and they did that as well Overall it was a good experience. I would take great care to make sure you describe exactly what you want on the form when/if you have them do a job. After sending it in and signing the invoice, I never heard a peep from them until it was on the way back. They initially quoted something like 90 days and finished in ~6-7 weeks. It wasn't cheap (even with their 10% discount from September) but it sure seems to be high quality. They said in their instructions that they couldn't coat titanium but, from what I can tell, they did a bang up job on the carrier comp tube as well. I think you're right, it does end up being a better product than the H2O if for no other reason than the titanium tube and some additional parts as well as NP3+. Other than for merely cosmetic reasons I probably would've had them do the shell holder/top rail and surefire foreend also since everything else turned out so well, but gray on gray on gray might be a bit much. The pictures don't do it justice, you can't tell it's done after-market, it looks new off the shelf Quote
StrangerDanger Posted November 14, 2014 Posted November 14, 2014 They actually coated your titanium magazine tube with NP3+? The ARGO plugs are the pieces that hold the pistons into the barrel assembly. There are a bunch of internal parts inside them that aren't commonly disassembled. If they coated the barrel completely, then yours is done far better than the H20's. I agree with doing the top rail and the Surefire rail. Basically only leave plastics black. It looks great though. Report back when you function test it. Quote
ohbejuan Posted November 14, 2014 Author Posted November 14, 2014 As far as I can tell they did, I wouldn't imagine the finish would match so closely/exactly with the newly finished barrel if they did not I wasn't sure if they could even do the surefire rail since it does have some plastic as part of the metal itself. Perhaps when I get some money at the beginning of the year I'll take the surefire, top rail and side saddles and have them do those. Shouldn't be more than another $100 or so (I hope) Quote
StrangerDanger Posted November 14, 2014 Posted November 14, 2014 If I recall, you can remove the rubberized portions of the Surefire M80 and take it down to just the aluminum parts. If you could take a picture of the threaded portion of the magazine tube, I could probably identify if it was coated or not. I'm curious to know if maybe they just bead blasted it. Quote
ohbejuan Posted November 14, 2014 Author Posted November 14, 2014 Pretty much every piece of metal I can find on the gun has been coated. It's hard to see but everything on the pistons appear to be coated as well as the inside of the end of the muzzle (last picture). The threads on the carriercomp tube on both ends seem coated also, as well as the tube-spring-clam (which was black previously) appears coated now. The follower was as well, it was an FFT Red. Quote
Evolution Posted November 14, 2014 Posted November 14, 2014 Looks like they did not coat the barrel extension and ejector, which is the same as my H2O. I prefer some contrast to the parts for example, I would have left the trigger housing and rear sight assembly and front sight black. But hey, that's how the H2O models come. Quote
ohbejuan Posted November 14, 2014 Author Posted November 14, 2014 You might be right about that barrel throat area. I don't mind the front and rear sight areas, I tend towards using some sort of optic anyhow, so that doesn't really bother me. SD planted the bug in my head to get the Surefire Forend coated and the top rail/side saddles so I inquired with Robar about those already (darn SD)! I actually wanted the trigger assembly coated, the actual FFT trigger itself didn't have a very smooth finish (SD actually changed it out for me twice as the first one had a nice indent in it) and the trigger guard. I'm probably more happy that I did it this way, getting NP3+, the titanium tube vs steel tube, etc vs buying an H2O. When I bought this last year I didn't have enough money to get an H2O anyhow! I do like the little flag design on the side though Quote
StrangerDanger Posted November 14, 2014 Posted November 14, 2014 The barrel was done the same way the H20's are. I believe they do not dip the entire barrel because of the ejector. That part is riveted in place and no one wants to mess with it. Did they coat the bolt itself too? Optics wise, I'm leaning towards the Trijicon RMR's on the ScalarWork rail over the Aimpoint T1. The size difference is amazing. Quote
ohbejuan Posted November 14, 2014 Author Posted November 14, 2014 The barrel was done the same way the H20's are. I believe they do not dip the entire barrel because of the ejector. That part is riveted in place and no one wants to mess with it. Did they coat the bolt itself too? Optics wise, I'm leaning towards the Trijicon RMR's on the ScalarWork rail over the Aimpoint T1. The size difference is amazing. The bolt is definitely coated and nice and smooth. I still can't get over the bluish tint of the trijicon RMR. I absolutely love my ACOG with it's clear glass, but seeing the world through a blue/green tint would drive me bonkers. That's why I'm still on the Leupold Deltapoint kick if they ever release a new one. There is a youtube video of a guy shooting his DP on a pistol and it's as clear as day with no tint. Someone on ARFCOM is even selling a used DP for $275 in good shape! I like my Aimpoint H-1 as well on a larue mount...it's nice, albeit a bit small and has a bit of a tint of it's own. The new Aimpoint T-2 looks kinda nice also, they are being shipped out now from Larue. Can't say enoug good things about that company. Quote
Evolution Posted November 14, 2014 Posted November 14, 2014 I think that they do not coat the barrel extension because it is hard chromed already. Looks like the same stuff (hard chrome) that they line military barrels with. M14's M16's and the M-1014. Quote
Vertigofirearms Posted November 14, 2014 Posted November 14, 2014 I think that they do not coat the barrel extension because it is hard chromed already. Looks like the same stuff (hard chrome) that they line military barrels with. M14's M16's and the M-1014. On the M4 it is satin chrome. The hunting stuff is hard chrome. Quote
ohbejuan Posted November 24, 2014 Author Posted November 24, 2014 Who knew my M4 was selling for close to a bajillion dollars? (Not mine BTW, just saw this perusing on GB) http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=454103515 Quote
StrangerDanger Posted November 24, 2014 Posted November 24, 2014 Just FYI, that guy tried to cheat a friend of mine. Agreed on a sales price, then changed the deal. Quote
Unobtanium Posted November 25, 2014 Posted November 25, 2014 On the M4 it is satin chrome. The hunting stuff is hard chrome. It's the same thing. The only difference is surface prep of the material. You do a fine bead-blast for a satin look, you polish for a shiny look. Quote
ohbejuan Posted January 25, 2015 Author Posted January 25, 2015 Just to re-up on an old thread... I got my Asgard Defense QD Rail/Sideshell holders NP3+ coated and the Muzzle Brake I got from H&K is being done also (that will be done next month). They were unable to disassemble the surefire foreend just as an FYI The Asgard stuff came out awesome, only one little black part that was rubber/plastic that they couldn't coat Quote
StrangerDanger Posted January 25, 2015 Posted January 25, 2015 F5! sucks about the Surefire rail. I wonder what they couldn't take apart? It looks easy enough to disassemble. Quote
ohbejuan Posted January 25, 2015 Author Posted January 25, 2015 F5! sucks about the Surefire rail. I wonder what they couldn't take apart? It looks easy enough to disassemble. I don't know either! This is all they said "One of the Rails you sent us for the surefire forend has plastic parts which would not survive the Np3 bath and cannot be disassembled." Quote
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