waveone Posted January 11, 2016 Share Posted January 11, 2016 Gentlemen, I have been conflicted as to where to mount a light on my M4(have an M3 also- suggestions?) and have determined to mount a light under the barrel on the mag extension, which I assume is possible. Does anyone have suggestions as to which rail and perhaps a light as well? While this sounds fairly basic, I am looking for the option which is lightest and least hassle in installation, yet durable to withstand the recoil shock. I have an Asgard Side Saddle on order, so weight is somewhat of an issue but not a deal breaker. Thank you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangerDanger Posted January 11, 2016 Share Posted January 11, 2016 What you seek is the Ava Tactical light mount with a Surefire Outdoorsman body and tailcap, then a 500 lumen Scout light head. It won't interfere with disassembly of the weapon. It's about as light as physically possible. It holds the light in the perfect position for momentary/constant activation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waveone Posted January 11, 2016 Author Share Posted January 11, 2016 What you seek is the Ava Tactical light mount with a Surefire Outdoorsman body and tailcap, then a 500 lumen Scout light head. It won't interfere with disassembly of the weapon. It's about as light as physically possible. It holds the light in the perfect position for momentary/constant activation. I should have looked a bit before I initiated a thread because I saw your post on the AVA mount. A bit pricey but I like it and like how the mount is close enough to the end of the barrel so as not to cast a shadow. Thank you very much. Also, do you have a recommendation on a full length spring for the extended magazine I put on ? Are the ss ones from Brownells worth it or should I go with the Carrier Comp model? Thank you again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HMLA-167 Warrior Posted January 11, 2016 Share Posted January 11, 2016 I should have looked a bit before I initiated a thread because I saw your post on the AVA mount. A bit pricey but I like it and like how the mount is close enough to the end of the barrel so as not to cast a shadow. Thank you very much. Also, do you have a recommendation on a full length spring for the extended magazine I put on ? Are the ss ones from Brownells worth it or should I go with the Carrier Comp model? Thank you again The AVA mount is worth the money, IMO. I still have shadowing from the barrel but I don't have an SBS M4. The wolf spring carriercomp sells is only $12 and is known to function well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waveone Posted January 11, 2016 Author Share Posted January 11, 2016 The AVA mount is worth the money, IMO. I still have shadowing from the barrel but I don't have an SBS M4. The wolf spring carriercomp sells is only $12 and is known to function well. Thank you sir. I should have done a search before asking both questions but I did notice that there are a couple different spring sources. The wolf spring is news to me. I don't have a SBS M4 either it is the full 18". While I like the apparent multi -function of the AVA system I do not like the idea about the shadowing in all candor. Although, that is probably a small trade off for it's function and durability. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangerDanger Posted January 11, 2016 Share Posted January 11, 2016 (edited) I've paid more and gotten less with other light mounting solutions. I think I paid nearly the same amount for the Surefire M80 rail, and hated it. The price is high, but you are buying a quality made CNC machined item made here in the US. These aren't extrusions like most of the other offerings. Plus this won't interfere with disassembly of the weapon like most of the other options out there. Get the carriercomp spring/follower and preferably one of their magazine tubes. My older setup, the Surefire Outdoorsman body/tailcap and a M600C Scout head. I've swapped the head for a 500 lumen M600U head. Currently it and the mount are out being painted in Burnt Bronze Cerakote. Here is a M600C 200 lumen head's barrel shadow. The 500 lumen model is similar, you just have a further throw. In the field, I don't even notice the shadow. Edited January 11, 2016 by StrangerDanger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gmcrigger2007 Posted January 11, 2016 Share Posted January 11, 2016 Can the AVA Tactical light mount work with a M4 that doesn't have the 7 round magazine tube ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangerDanger Posted January 11, 2016 Share Posted January 11, 2016 Yes. It attaches to the barrel hanger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gmcrigger2007 Posted January 11, 2016 Share Posted January 11, 2016 Thanks for the reply and the pic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waveone Posted January 12, 2016 Author Share Posted January 12, 2016 I've paid more and gotten less with other light mounting solutions. I think I paid nearly the same amount for the Surefire M80 rail, and hated it. The price is high, but you are buying a quality made CNC machined item made here in the US. These aren't extrusions like most of the other offerings. Plus this won't interfere with disassembly of the weapon like most of the other options out there. Get the carriercomp spring/follower and preferably one of their magazine tubes. My older setup, the Surefire Outdoorsman body/tailcap and a M600C Scout head. I've swapped the head for a 500 lumen M600U head. Currently it and the mount are out being painted in Burnt Bronze Cerakote. Here is a M600C 200 lumen head's barrel shadow. The 500 lumen model is similar, you just have a further throw. In the field, I don't even notice the shadow. Thank you very much! The picture helps tremendously. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tack425 Posted January 12, 2016 Share Posted January 12, 2016 I really like the BLAM mount. There are several different mounting options at 3, 6 and 9 o'clock positions. I use a Surefire X300U with a remote tape switch. It does make for a bit of a shadow with the barrel, but I am used to it. I actually have an extra 3/9 o'clock BLAM mount because I prefer the 6 position. http://www.brownells.com/shooting-accessories/flashlights-accessories/flashlight-mounts/benelli-blam-light-mounts-prod44716.aspx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xchief30 Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 Here is my AVA light mount w/ Surefire light with the 500 Lumen KE2-A head and the shrouded tail cap that I had notched and fits right by the forend grip. Also took a pic of the barrel shadow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangerDanger Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 Nice job on that tailcap Chief. I had the BLAM4 mount before. I found it to be rather limiting when it comes to sling options and what kind of light/light activation method you're using. I ended up cutting the mount down and turned it into a QD mount by drilling a hole through the bracket and mounting a IWC QD sling mount into it. I used it until the Ava Tactical mount was released. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimbo45 Posted January 21, 2016 Share Posted January 21, 2016 I put a surefire x300 on mine and went with the surefire rail that they made for the m4. Not sure if they make it anymore or not though. also I had the light on the bottom. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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