MattMaus2010 Posted February 16, 2006 Share Posted February 16, 2006 what do yall think about the super black eagle 2s? are they any good? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boo Posted February 16, 2006 Share Posted February 16, 2006 I love mine had great results and would not trade it for anything.Had a couple of bugs to work out but it worth it.It`s a good all round gun to have and lighter than most other guns out there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattMaus2010 Posted February 16, 2006 Author Share Posted February 16, 2006 so how is the recoil with the new recoil reduction system? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
usmarine Posted February 16, 2006 Share Posted February 16, 2006 BENELLI SBE II No DOUBT, buy the Benelli SBE II. It is a lighter, nicer, easier on the shoulder, easier to clean gun. It's only like $100 bucks more, which is nothing in the course of a lifetime of ownership. We have 3 Benelli SBE II's and 2 Benelli SBE's in my family.....all love them. They are inertia operated....much better then gas...which is not only more work to clean...but more prone to jamming in bad weather, or if not cleaned properly. Most gas opertated guns are lighter recoil....except the Benelli. It is the lightest out there. The Beretta is heavier and more clumbsier.... I know that they are also fatter foreends...which was a pain...but apparently the new ones aren't as fat, because people complained. I've shot the original one...but not the new one. All I know is that Benelli's are the lightest, fastest, cleanest, and easiest on the shoulder....can't beat that. All of our Benelli's are 26" barrell's. We blind hunt for ducks and field hunt for pheasant in SD..... the "26 barrell is the best compromise for all hunting conditions. We all have BLACK MATTE, because of problems with the CAMO ones. Good Hunting. Tell us what you buy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mudhen Posted February 16, 2006 Share Posted February 16, 2006 Don't buy one. They are too expensive - all other brands are cheaper and work better - Benelli should pay you to own their products, the safety is too loud, camo chips off, they don't cycle, the trigger is not adjustable, new barrels are not free, the don't have every part available at your every whim, they do not offer 24 hour customer service, etc. Now, if you can live with all of the above, I guess the SBE II is an ok gun... mudhen - CA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tucker301 Posted February 16, 2006 Share Posted February 16, 2006 You forgot to mention that Benelli has yet to adopt the ICTSSA (International Choke Tube Standard Size Agreement), so their tubes may not fit your Iver Johnson or Ted Williams And the recoil reduction system reduces the felt recoil of an extremely lightweight Inertia shotgun. The gun will still kick, and it may even kick more than your 15 yr. old 12.5 lb. BrownRemChester gas gun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattMaus2010 Posted February 16, 2006 Author Share Posted February 16, 2006 so whats all the talk about the camo on these guns Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mudhen Posted February 16, 2006 Share Posted February 16, 2006 Originally posted by MattMaus2010: so whats all the talk about the camo on these guns Dunno I truly think most folks have no idea what the camo finish is. They would rather bash it than learn anything about it. It's a thin plastic film. Period. It's not tough. Not rugged. It adds about $100 to the MSRP, which is less than it costs to have done aftermarket. It's not paint, permanent, anodized, clear coated, powder coated, etc. It does prevent some rust from forming, but it's not rustproofing. Bug spray eats it, you can scratch it off with your fingernails if you choose, it will fade over time, wear in spots, likes to flake at the edges, etc. Now true defective bubbling is bad and Benelli usually fixes under warranty. The photos above are after 100 hunts in the field. I have a few wear spots, nothing I find objectionable. Once it wears off to the point I care, I'll send it off and have it re-dipped for $100-$150. Maybe darker next time though... mudhen - CA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cleric Posted February 16, 2006 Share Posted February 16, 2006 Mudhen - you're a cruel man. I love it. What's your duck call of choice? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mudhen Posted February 17, 2006 Share Posted February 17, 2006 Originally posted by Cleric: Mudhen - you're a cruel man. I love it. What's your duck call of choice? Winglock poly walnut double - tuned by a WL rep. mudhen - CA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cleric Posted February 17, 2006 Share Posted February 17, 2006 You're not the first person I've been in contact with who favors a WL and, clearly, has results with them. I'm going to have to look into picking one up for next season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IdahoDucker Posted February 18, 2006 Share Posted February 18, 2006 I must respectfully disagree with usmarine about the recoil thing. I have a couple of friends with Xtrema's and one with an Ithaca Mag 10. As far as their shoulders and mine go, my SBE kicks harder than any of theirs. We often trade guns while shooting clays or pattern testing and they always comment about feeling my gun more and vice versa for me. Others with pump guns think my SBE feels about the same as theirs with the same loads. Maybe it's just us but SBE's have to have recoil to operate while it's the nature of gas guns to absorb it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nomaspescado Posted February 18, 2006 Share Posted February 18, 2006 The gun is good enough to where if it fits you well and you like the balance, buy it. I love mine and will not get rid of it, but did have a problem with the shell carrier that required a little tweeking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
usmarine Posted February 19, 2006 Share Posted February 19, 2006 IdahoDucker: To respond to your comment..... to clarify what I meant...... ANY shotgun that is of the same WEIGHT of the Benelli SBE II will have a usually have a higher recoil. If you shoot a 10 gauge shotgun that weighs 11 lbs., I would expect it to have a lower recoil. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hooftrimmer 1 Posted February 19, 2006 Share Posted February 19, 2006 I love my sbeII its fast light it will work in condtions that my gas auto loader will not. recoil is not bad I have shot 835s that are ported and the recoil was much worst. It is alot of money but it is worth it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattMaus2010 Posted February 19, 2006 Author Share Posted February 19, 2006 well i shot my friends today and the recoil was less than my 20 nova pump and the camo wasn't that bad at all and it was a year old i will definately be purchasing one soon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IdahoDucker Posted February 20, 2006 Share Posted February 20, 2006 Originally posted by usmarine: IdahoDucker: To respond to your comment..... to clarify what I meant...... ANY shotgun that is of the same WEIGHT of the Benelli SBE II will have a usually have a higher recoil. If you shoot a 10 gauge shotgun that weighs 11 lbs., I would expect it to have a lower recoil. Good point. I might be a little biased as to what I consider to be considerable recoil. I had a double barrel 10 gauge for a few years and once while testing turkey loads both barrels went off at once. Let me tell you, one load from any twelve gauge is nothing compared to what that was and it weighed 13 pounds. Originally posted by MattMaus2010: ...i will definately be purchasing one soon Good idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
usmarine Posted February 20, 2006 Share Posted February 20, 2006 Tell you what, it's a great gun, and I bought mine, NO REGRETS. Every time I shoot it, it's a pleasure. And that's real nice. Now I just need a new deer rifle....maybe a Kifura (two barrel takedown, 4.5 lbs total weight) in .300 WSM. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattMaus2010 Posted February 20, 2006 Author Share Posted February 20, 2006 nice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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