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I'm a fan of the velcro systems over the hard mounted ones. The velcro ones weigh less and crush flat when not in use. I didn't care for how stiff it was to pull the shells from the Mesa one either.

I ordered the IWC. The AVA was amazing though. Very well thought out and machined so low profile.

Referring to this?See picture.

Thanks again. I’ll try the Noveske cups, I ordered a set. I’ll checkout the light mount also.

I used a Tacstar slimline on my 870 and another hard shell type on my 590. I am not in love with either. I shoot lefty and decided to go with the ESSTAC cards for my M4. It’s a cheap way to try the Velcro out. If it works I can swap to the other guns. I also have a chest rig with Taco’s that can hold them if I need. I figure a reload will look like this. Strip the old card off, pull the new one out of the Taco, place it on the gun, and reload off the card. Shooting lefty I have to turn the gun over so I would stage my shells accordingly for an upside down reload.

mickey d; I actually misspoke when I said that I have the QD cup in my M4 stock. I DO have it installed in my 590A1 stock but, I used the NOVESKE replacement sling plate on my M4 that has a QD cup on one side of it. But as I said, if you opt for the cup, it will work, the threads are long enough. The 590A1 stock has thicker walls than the M4 stock. I think the sling plate is the better option for the M4 unless you have the collapsable stock. It just takes a little work to replace the OEM plate with the NOVESKE plate. Sorry for the confusion

AVA quit manufacturing a couple years ago. Nobody knows why. I think this is the only option now. It's a great mount. https://www.impactweaponscomponents.com/product/multi-light-benelli-m4-mount-scout/

Fully loaded with 7+1+1, adding a side saddle will add substantial weight. Better think about a sling also.

Not Glen but I have installed the Noveske QD cup on my Benelli M4 standard pistol grip stock and my 590A1 stock and the threads are plenty long enough. No worries.