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Buy a rx arms handle.Best m4 handle out there

These do look very nice and I meant to pick one up. Might still have todo this

yea I am sure it is a great product, but there is no way a m4 ch should be running north of $50-60 bucks not when Midwest Industries is $27.50 and TTI for $45 Forward Control Designs is working on one according to their owner Roger and if its anything like their other parts, it may be the best one released, I expect a hefty premium on that though, probably $75-100 I would not be surprised, but could be wrong

The rxarms is twice that amount so I'd say it doesn't make sense either.

So far I think that's what I like the least? The M4 is a fat dirty pig. lol I couldn't believe how dirty mine was inside in only 75 rounds? (mostly buck and slug) I finally gave in and bought one this spring to get my own opinion on how much was steak, how much was sizzle. Separate the truth from the fanboy fappery if you will. lmao I'm sure I'll be chased from the forum with torches and pitchforks, but thus far I'm just not seeing it. It's a great gun, I guess, but not matching the price or the hype thus far.

One has a ring (old) and one has a circular dent/notch that the detent fits into. The ring one that goes all the way around can be over inserted. I have both styles and don’t have a problem with either. If you’re transporting it with either style take it out. When you put it in don’t over insert it. Pretty simple stuff. For 40 bucks they’re solid

I bought a M4/1014 for its vaunted ARGO system, and I'm starting to think that's the only feature I'm going to like about this gun - if/when I eventually get a chance to shoot one. In other words, it better be a real smooth shooter or this $2K+ gun will be out of my collection real fast. Here's a summary of some recent posts/experiences (only a few of them are mine) with Benelli that have me wondering if this is the right brand for me: > Franklinexpress's blue balls situation in this topic. 😆 > I had to return a supposedly brand new H2O that was clearly a used and abused gun. That BS took 4 weeks. > The magazine cap retaining spring and pin just fell out of my brand new M1014 so now I'm without that gun for another 3 - 4 weeks while it's getting repaired. > Both front sights on my supposedly brand new H2O, and my brand new M1014 came canted/off center from the factory. This is common/acceptable condition on a $2K+ gun??? > The magazine release button is a joke. Thanks to RX Arms for his quick fix. > The gun is hard to load, and even more awkward to unload. > The jenky two-piece plastic forend is a joke. I've been around all sorts of firearms for 50 years. If I find putting those two pieces back together to be a finicky PITA in the comfort of my own home - and I've watched many others on YouTube struggle with this finicky PITA feature too - how the hell does a young kid in the military under fire/duress do it? How did this finicky PITA feature even make it onto a combat weapon??? > And, of course, the heat shield. Yeah, I know, it's not really needed, and real men never drop a burning hot firearm under fire/duress and then have to pick it up and burn themselves, but I'm still surprised some sort of heat shield is not on a combat weapon. When I want to reload fast, the last thing I want to be thinking about is how I have to hold this gun just right so I don't burn myself. The forend on the M4-A1 got that right. OK. Rant over. I'm just ticked off right now after several weeks of delays, and hopefully some eventual range time with my M1014 will set my world right. Serenity now! 😆

No but the more you shoot it the easier it gets. That’s my experience

I've had both and prefer the 14". The sole con to the 14" is you have a seven shell capacity vs a nine shell one. Shown below alongside my other spaghetti guns.

yeah man I know exactly what you mean. Outside it is much more noticeable. I wanted a BLACK M4 ( like advertised not a blue one. It makes me so mad that you have to think about reanodizing it to get it right. What makes me the most mad is that they made no mention of this. Geissele s adozing has varying shades but they tell you this upfront. When i order a black shotgun i want a black shotgun. I sold mine and got a H20 one. You could always order a h20 one and switch thee stocks and sell the 1014. That way you d have a h20 with collipsable stock. I did this and just sold the 1014 about 250 less.

I too have an iwc with pic rail I could sell if anyone wants it.

The Advantage is 4". Most often, 4" longer is better, not so in this case.

I have two now .Don’t even pull a regular m4 out of safe …Just better balanced to me.alittle less capacity then a regular one