Novaking

I agree novaking

yes I think your right

He is not asking about the m4, he is asking about the supernova.

Yes you can buy the nova with the slug barrel. But if you need a field barrel down the road, you might have a hard time finding one. You will have a better chance buying a nova with a field barrel and buying separate slug barrel. You have find them easiler. Novaking

It will not make that much of a differance. What loads are you shooting

What do you think a heavy gun weights. I thought 8 pounds is heavy enough!

I think the 3000 is the same as the regular condor exept it as extended chokes. Other than that, I don't know much about the gun. novaking

I'd duck anyway, the loads some of these guys are using, they will hit you from a state away.

PATTERN YOUR GUN!!! You want a soccer ball size pattern (like splash said) at the futherest distance of your house.

I know from rifle reloading, had to have a gunsmith get brass out of the chamber because I loaded a little to hot. Novaking

They might not stop with a slug in the wrong place ether. I think the point people are missing is shot placement. Thats the most important thing. IF the shot is is the right place, a well placed shot will slow them down to think about what your going to do next. Shoot again maybe backup and lock yourself in a room with your family and what for the police. I don't know. I"ve never shot anyone. Don't want to. If that time comes I will do what it takes to protect my family. Novaking

I agree!! Novaking

first, The shells are fine. 7 1/2 or 8's. Chokes: You say the beginner range so I think you mean the 16 yard line. The stock modifed choke will be the best for you. When you get better, the full choke might be better(you might step back). Sights: can you see the sight that is on the gun now? Does or eye pick up red well? Sight picture: how are you "aiming" the gun? Do you see the rib, or just the front site. Nova's are made to "stack" the middle bead on top of the front site. (like a figure 8). Patterning: have you patterned your gun at the range with a pattern board? This will show you where your gun is shooting (high or low). It also helps with what choke you should use. Try and think about these thing before going to the trap field. What kind of loads are you using for your problem? (yotes, dogs, etc) novaking

I have a SPR 310 O/U 12 gauge. I put about 2000 rounds a year though it and zero problems. the gun cost me 399.00 and I put about 150.00 in it after two year owning the gun. So your looking 550 for an O/U. Is it a browning or Franchi or Beretta. NO!! But I'm averaging 23 on the skeet field and I can limit 15 dove with 20 shells. What ever she is comfortable with novaking

Thanks again. Like I said, I love to reload pistol and rifle. The saving are great and its good to know what your shooting. Maybe I will try a see. novaking

just found this online http://www.trapshooters.com/rlcalcadv.htm

sound like a deal to me novaking

I use 1 1/4 4 shot. Same field loads I peasant hunt with. novaking

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heah, but where did they get there guns from? A big batch of people are hurting for money right now. novaking

thats the same math I came up with. I love to reload and people will sell there old presses for cheap. I don't know. thanks for the info guys novaking

I've kinda done the math and I can't justify reloading 12 gauge. walmart sells them almost as cheap. My ruff math is on 1 1/8 loads. Walmart sell 100 rounds of 1 1/8 3 dram for 20.89. Is my math wrong? I reload all my pistol and rifle ammo and there is a big price differance. little help please Novaking

looks like they go to different schools together novaking

maybe there are selling for money reasons novaking

nothing to kid about. If you get a good pattern to kill a turkey. use it.