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I never said anything about the Bible or religion. I only used a piece of literature to define an era, I thought everyone understood "Biblical" to mean around 2000+ years ago. Why did this go on a "Bible" tangent? Wrong thread for that.

I like my(could be yours...) Trulock MOD choke.

I have another project to support. As well as some college debt I want to absolve.

The earth was known to be round back in Biblical times too, but look how long it took for everyone else to catch on...

Mesa 6-shot side-saddle Trulock MOD/IC choke tubes Primos Dead-Deer choke tube Carlson's Full extended steel choke tube Benelli MOD/IC chokes Cleaning brush("tornado", really gets the lead out from slugs FAST!)/Benelli spec oil(never used it, I used CLP)/all manuals it shipped with 3-point sling 7-shot (replacement tube from Numrich) mag tube w/M1S90 spring and an extra spring Surecycle Aluminum follower Briley Speed Wrench Original mag tube/spring/follower Mine is in flawless working condition, shows normal wear for 500-700 rounds, and feeds anything I have stuffed in it from low-recoil buckshot (Win-Lite 9-pellet) to 1200fps remington target loads to 3" OOO Buck (which it normally patterns 3" OOO Remington Express Buckshot 50-70% within a 15" circle at 40 yards using the MOD Trulock choke). Slugs are VERY accurate and at 50 yards 3" or so groups are the norm off the bench for ME. Shoots slugs and buckshot to the same POA as far as I have been able to discern. It was purchased on 08/14/2008 according to the reciept (I ordered it the 11th or 12th I think) and is an 11707 with 2-port barrel. I bolted the Mesa on (just throwing out there, it is in the box, but not NIB) and was not really a fan, but I know a lot of people that swear by them. I will do FTF, or ship to your FFL w/in CONUS. I only can accept money-orders or chashier's checks (or cash FTF). I don't have an EFT setup. I will ship upon cashing your payment. Everything* in the picture comes with the $1825 shipped CONUS**. I will not break this "package" down and part things out. *Toes not included **If you want to do a FTF within 200 miles of the Shreveport/Bossier Louisiana area, I will meet you half-way. I can best be reached by PM on this site. Here is a video of a mag-dump using birdshot: 8 shots Sorry for the poor video/picture quality. If your purchase depends on hi-res photos, I can obtain some. Otherwise, all I have is my cell-phone and I will have to find a friend who has a camera. ****PRICE DROP BELOW!****** *$1925 for the package is now $1825*(edited in post above as well) *If you want "just the shotgun", you will get everything that it comes with from Benelli (stock mag tube, stock M4 spring/follower,stock Benelli MOD choke tube, stock wrench/choke thread cleaning tool/stock benelli oil/shotgun/Manuals PLUS The 3-point sling, choke-tube lube, cleaning supplies pictured, M1S90 spring and extra M1S90 spring, and 7-shot tube (because I don't feel like taking it off). The price for this is $1675 Shipped CONUS. Again, just to avoid confusion:Things listed below that are shown in the picture you will NOT GET for $1675: Mesa 6-shot side-saddle Trulock MOD/IC choke tubes Primos Dead-Deer choke tube Carlson's Full extended steel choke tube Benelli IC choke 3-point sling Surecycle Aluminum follower Briley Speed Wrench

Wife/daughter raped and I don't have any plans to get married nor do I have kids. I still think the above is how things should be done. Maybe I am a traditionalist but I still view the man as the protector of the family, and my opinion is born out with a simple study of psychology and physiology.

A while back I got into a debate with someone about it. To this person and all others considering this ammunition, read this first before you buy. If you still want it after reading this thread, by all means, buy some! If not, then vote with your wallet and take your business elsewhere. http://www.m4carbine.net/showthread.php?t=19888

I am getting a refund on the product.

LaRue has offered me a full refund. +1 to LaRue

Mine did the same. I told them what weapon it was going on though and they said it should be fine. LaRue is top-notch and I am sure they will make it right as well!

PM sent : )

Yep, that's right. I broke it. Using it properly. I even told the guys at LaRue what I would mount it on (Benelli M4) and what I would shoot (3" slugs). They said the mount was beyond reproach. However, the base that sits between the M1913 blocks on the M4 rail is peened from recoil about 1/8" or so, and the sight will not old zero as it peens slightly after each shot/moving POI. LaRue is a great company and they will make this right I am sure. This post is NOT bashing them or their product in ANY way, simply stating that yes, ANYTHING can break.

Maybe I am wierd, but I cart my weapons all through the house for the heck of it sometimes. Guess I am one of the odd ones.

STOP! HOLD YOUR ARMS OUT TO THE SIDE PALMS OPEN FACING ME! Non compliance/aggresssion? -Bang(repeated as necessary). I feel no need to be chambering and racking and making any noise other than the above. Instead, I want my appearance on the scene to be a total shock to them. Think about it. If I am in my room and 2 people are in my livingroom and I begin racking my weapon (well, my M4 doesn't "rack" per se) then 1 of them might well tell the other to re-position himself. THen when I appear, certain that anyonei n the house has shat himself, the one in the middle of the room by the TV feignes compliance while his accompolice assaults me from behind furniture or something.

Obama has stated that he wishes to remove firearms from the hands of people who live in the inner cities. He also stated that "bitter small town people cling to god and guns" or some such rubbish. Obama is DEFINITELY anti-gun. NOOB- This is not the place for this thread, BUT, without public awareness, there won't be many threads posted that DO belong here. I put my .02 in that the Mod's leave this thread where it is as long as it is informational and doesn't turn into a free-for all or something.

Well when you can fit 9 3" OO Buck loads in your M4, let me know J/K I was using remington birdshot and It doesn't hold more than 6 in the mag with those. It likes Estate and federal.

I would NOT use it. My M4 2-port cycles 9-pellet win-lite reduced recoil buckshot flawlessly. If I added another 2 ports, it would be SLAMMING that bolt around, much less if I ran something like the 3" OOO Buck my M4 loves through it. I would not buy it.

Figured some of you may want to see it. http://tinypic.com/player.php?v=1z5urfs&s=4

Hide it's foodstamps under it's workboots. Oh wait, that is if it's lazy, not has a good work ethic Oil it up and work it back and forth while watching TV (that always makes things better for me anyways).

Well, FINALLY I found what my M4 likes. This is a good target at 40 yards (not a cherry-picked on, just on the better side of average, I only shot a couple at 40, but they looked like this pretty much). (Sorry for the big-pic, I don't have MS paint on this computer yet). At 90 paces (probably 90 meters), I managed to hit this target every time with Remington Slugger Slugs. I was standing and leaning/bracing against a tree, and I am sure I was flinching by this point. I even removed the barrel and choke and re-installed them (what good is it if my weapon loses zero after I take it home and clean it?). It shot to roughly the same POA. Groups were nothing to brag about mainly due to the leaning/standing, and my flinching, but I never once missed the paper, although I did barely connect once or twice. The paper measures 14"x18". This weapon will easily allow hits on humanoid torso's out to 100m. If my slugs "destabalized" and tumbled, then they all must have hit nose-first by some genius stroke of luck, b/c there was no oval or sideways hole in my target. OO Magnum buckshot (remington as well) did "ok", but my M4 REALLY likes the OOO Buck. I used Birchwood Casey lube and a Briley Speed Wrench to tighten the choke. It never once came loose, including a box of 3" BB Steel Estate that I shot through it some rapid-fire.

Choke is here, will post results in 3-5 hours.

M1's and SBE 1's did, IIRC (may be wrong) but the M2/SBEII and newer Benellis do not.

Some of the new sabot rounds and shotguns out there are effective to 200 yards with a competent trigger-puller. How many deer are killed past 200 yards except in open areas like Texas, ect.?

It is all but made from 1 block of steel. It is a rock.

No, the weapon will not try to load a shell onto the carrier if one is already there. I am not sure the mechanics of why not, because I never cared. I pressed the shell-release and nothing happened and that was good enough for me. I am sure Duggan can tell you which lever or whatnot precludes this, or you and I could figure it out by removing the trigger group and looking if over.