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Oh, and here I thought it meant settling for sub-standard. I try so hard every day to NEVER say "That'll do" in relation to something I am doing or trying to achieve. I much prefer. "That can do no better." -OCD/Perfectionist Hence why I spent $2200+ on a defensive shotgun. I have some genetic pre-disposition against compromise.

What is this term? I am not familiar with it.

I tested WS against other CLP's with salt-water. It did not do so hot. Better than rem-oil and Militec 1 (horrible) but not nearly as good as Breakfree CLP. I sent George Fennel a run-down of the test and he said it was a very harsh test, but good info.

If I were to buy a pump gun for social purposes it would be a Mossy 590A1 with the heavy-wall barrel.

Aluminum will not rust. As to weapon-shield, I have tried it, and it is a pretty good lube and I love the smell of it. That being said, as a rust preventative it isn't so hot (then again, this rec. is aluminum, but the bolt carrier is still rust-able). I am a fan of RIG+P with a few drops of BF CLP floated on top of it. THis will not gum up very much at all compared to most greases you are familiar with. When RIG heats up, it almost turns liquid. I just know how big of a difference pinning a barrel will make, and wonder if this tolerance opening up will make a difference too. (not in a good way).

Can you verify/support this with evidence? I have shot out to 100 yards offhand with my M4 and while I didn't hit the target every time, when I did, the slug was obviously oriented correctly based on the rifling marks left around the hole smeared on the paper. Unless it was 100% base or front first, that is the only way it could leave those marks, and base-first is about impossible aerodynamically. Was this a fluke? I would like to see support for your statement in the form of testing or documentation of testing.

My main question is whether this will lead to inaccuracy with slugs ect. I am not talking about the bolt carrier rail wear, but rather the barrel tang where it slides into the reciever wearing the reciever. Will this allow movement of the barrel and cause erratic grouping when using slugs? Mine seems to look similar to yours with only 500 rounds through it. I think it is more a function of removing/replacing the barrel than shooting it. I clean after every session. OR Is proper locating/tension/snugness supplied to the barrel by the end cap pressing the barrel against the reciever, rather than fitting snugly inside of the reciever?

Looks like the market is pretty strong. GL with your sale!

Take a white paint-pen and put a dot on the screw head, and a dot on the reciever. If the two ever come out of alignment, you have a problem. Blue locktite and SENSIBLE amounts of tq are what is needed.

I am not pressured to sell, I was just wondering if they were at a high point in the market (like Colt AR's) and I could come out = or +$100 for my trouble. If not, I will keep it. Went and shot it today and it put a smile on my face.

In my limited experience Remington slugs like IC and Winny's like MOD.

I was just testing the waters/curious. I am not in any hurry or trying to get rid of it. Now if someone jumped on here and offered me $$$ at a winning proposition for me, well $$ is $$ and if they wanted to skip the waiting line, I would do it I guess.

Well, as college is wearing on (both on me and my bank acct.) I am becoming curious. If I wanted to flip my M4 and pay off some debt, what is the market like? What would be a reasonable price to ask? M4, bought new about 400 rounds and 2 months ago (Paid 1549+Tax) Pride Fowler Mini-dot w/ Larue QD mount, bought new 200 rounds ago (Paid a hair over $400) full-length mag tube (Sourced from Numrich) (Paid $100) Mesa 6-shot side-saddle (not attatched currently, paid $84) And a GGG sling. (Paid $30) Anyways, just curious if there is a market of if this is such a niche type firearm that I should just hang onto it as there is no way to break even/come out okay? I know Benelli DOES have a 3-month wait, or did when I bought it. Anywho, any ideas?

Don't you feel so much safer knowing that we have laws that protect us

Yes/no THe rib is vented so as to dissipate heat from collecting on the rib and causing mirage which could blurr your target (as you are looking along the barrel), or the front bead, if you are aiming at something stationary (although in THAT case, I wonder what you would be shooting more than 3-5 times). Try it sometime with a shotgun that has no rib, it will quickly (5-10 rapid shots) blurr your target as viewed along the barrel on some days (depends on ambient temp, ect.) Think of a vented rib like you would a sun-shade on a varmint rifle that extends the entire barrel length. IT is there to crisp up the target pic and keep mirage at bay from barrel heat. It is not there to heat-sinc for the barrel.

A red-dot for this would be a handicap imho. You do not aim a shotgun meant for this, you throw it/swing it, and it should be dead on if you have it shimmed correctly. Smoothly throw it to your shoulder while looking at what you are wanting to shoot and maintaining good mechanics and you should* hit it. Not aiming will always be quicker than aiming provided you hit the target. It is truly point/click interface.

From what I understand: Yes it is illegal, just like when I ran my GT without cats or a smog pump. Same kind of deal, just with stiffer penalties. Legal precidence? None. Legal loopholes/confusion? Lots.

Because people think you need a Kreighoff (sp*) to turn good scores because they would like an excuse for their not turning good scores

Well, I patterned the chokes. X-Full BK: Did pretty good out to 25 yards, at 30 yards there was a very noticeable donut pattern with 9-pellet 2.75" OO Buck. With the 3" shells, which is what is recommended for it, there was what I call "blown/strung" patterns. That is to say, they were about 8-12" wide with some fliers, but over 20" tall top to bottom at 25-30 yards. The Full BK sent to me performed exactly as the original one I had did. Erratic and poor patterns past 20-25 yards. In short, Kick's is refunding my purchase. My Primos Dead Deer tube still outperformed the Kick's tubes by a good margin. I am still not satisfied with it, as I feel improvement can be made and that it IS possible to get "consistant patterns within 20" at 40 yards." I will be buying a Wad Wizard Supreme in my search for a tight-patterning buckshot tube. MY barrel just does not like Kick's tubes, for whatever reason. However. Kick's tubes are VERY well made and I loved how it looked/fit on my M4. I really wish my shotgun had liked the tube. They are great tubes and Kick's Ind. is a great company to deal with. Shotguns are finicky creatures I am learning. My experience with Kick's was nothing but positive, however, and I recommend their product. If your shotgun likes it, they are great people and great products.

I am a fan of red-dot/holographic type sights for this very reason.

Or not straight as in...

Well, the Buck Kicker was a .685 and it performed very poorly with most anything I put through it. My $30 Primos Dead Deer tube owned it past 15 yards. However, I called Chuck and he thinks there is something wrong with my tube. He sent me 2 more tubes to pattern (one a replacement, and one in .680). I am going to give those two a try. He said if that doesn't do it, he will give me a refund. I look at it this way, every now and then a gun finds a choke it just doesn't like. I think that is what happened here as Chuck makes a quality product. He also has GREAT! customer service (as evidenced by him shipping me another $160 worth of chokes to play with in addition to the one I already have and asking me to return the 2 that I don't like if 1 of them does well). You just can't beat that kind of service! I am going to pattern again this weekend and see what it does. I expect it will be much better this go around. Chuck knows his stuff.

Looks right to me.

RARE! WOW!

Brownells (I cant spell for crap) will sell you the spring that will fix your issues. I bought the M1 Super 90 Military Model spring.