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Hey Axhoaxho, I just got an email from Optics Planet (who I was on backorder with) that they finally have them back in stock. But I had just aquired mine from National Police Supply where MeanGreen had refered me to. Sean DePriest, the owner there is a great guy to deal with. He didn't have it in stock but said he'd try to get me one. He called me about a day and a half later that it was on the way. So I had it in hand 4 days after talking to him. Very refreshing after all the time I spent on backorder. Later, Hookster

No, I just got the M80 this afternoon so I haven't had a chance to shoot it yet. I've looked around but didn't see any posts about binding problems. Do you have links to accounts of problems? It looks like the gas pistons/rods have enough play room. I haven't tried changing the switch position but I'm pretty happy with where it's at. Even with the enlarged grip size, the switch position still feels very natural to use. Hookster

Hey All, Well, I finally got my Surefire M80 picatinny rail forend today (many thanks to MeanGreen for the lead). Anyway, I thought I'd share some thoughts on it as well as some pictures. As most of you probably know I'm looking at using it simply as a forend grip that would be a U.S. made 922r compliant part that would also allow me to keep my Sidearmor rail system. I don't intend at this time to mount any accessories to it although from looking at it, if I were to mount my Streamlight TLR-1 to the right side it doesn't look like I'd have the problems StrangerDanger had with his hand hitting the backplate/wire plug area of his Surefire light (I believe it was a X300) due to the Streamlight having a 90 degree plug and smaller backplate projection So, as far as being a forend that I can use in conjunction with my Sidearmor rail, I'm very happy with it. I had been concerned about weight before but it only adds 2.9oz after removing the weight of the stock grips. Additional weight on top of that would depend on your choice of rail covers. The other issue that has been raised is hand comfort/grip feel. I've tried a few combinations of rail coverings already and they're included in the pictures. I believe the combination that StrangerDanger recommended was Magpul XTMs at the 6 oclock and ladder rails at 3 and 9 (3 ladder rails are included with the forearm). I found this fine too and probably the closest to the circumference of the stock grips. I also tried and like the XTMs on all three sides. I bought enough to completely cover all three sides but three panels per side seems more than enough to grip. Any extra would just be adding weight. This will probably be the combination I'll be using for now. It does make for a fairly fat grip but I have large hands and thought it had a good feel. Overall I find it more comfortable than the KZ which I reviewed here: http://www.benelliusa.com/forum/showthread.php?t=19590&highlight=KZ But depending what your after in a U.S. made forend the KZ may be a better choice for mounting options etc. So in closing, If the Mesa "Urbino" U.S. made stock that MeanGreen posted comes out and is of good quality I would probably go back to my stock Benelli grips instead of Surefire or KZ but until then I think I'll be fine with the Surefire. Now all I need is my FL tube. (Hi Kip!!!) And now some pictures.....

Great News!, Thanks for the update! Hookster

post #2 in this thread are Kips instructions http://www.benelliusa.com/forum/showthread.php?t=17726 Hookster

Math is cool

See post #4 above Hookster

Welcome Flya, Yeah, I wasn't real impressed with the stock night sights and replaced mine right away with the Meprolights. They're nice and bright tritiums. You'll want a 5.5mm wrench to change out the front post.

check out items #133 and 136 on this page http://www.brownells.com/.aspx/pid=0/sid=683/schematicsdetail/Super_90_M1_Military___Police they are for M1 super 90 but they may interchange. It would only be about $23.00 to order and Brownells would let you return if it wasn't the right part. Hookster

I'm glad your fit issue is resolved. Nothing worse than spending money on a part and then having some kind of issue. I really think the KZ is a good option for a U.S made forend. I'm just looking at the Surefire right now because it would allow me to have a U.S. made forend and keep my Sidearmor rail but if it gets too heavy with the M80 I may go back to the KZ. Hookster

The manual just lists runtime as 2-3 years under normal use. It doesn't have a switch so it's constantly on and comes with a cover to reduce drain on the battery when it's in bright light and not being used. The Trijicon site lists a 26 week lead time on the wings for the mount for some reason and I haven't found them in stock anywhere else so that's kinda irksome. Anyway, just looking at options still. It would be nice if I could find one low enough to co-witness. BTW your AR build is looking fine Later, Hookster

Hi David, Numrich has schematics available but I believe they charge for them and then e-mail them to you as a pdf Start here for Benelli schematics: http://www.e-gunparts.com/model.asp?idDept=348 You can also download the M1 super 90 manual for free from the Benelli site but I'm not sure if that includes the parts diagrams (which comes separate in print form) The manual can be found here: http://www.benelliusa.com/downloads/manuals.php Hope that helps, Hookster

Hey All, Does anyone know if the Winchester Military Grade 12ga 00 buckshot pictured here is lead or steel shot? I just got some and assumed it was lead but just read a post on another site saying that military 12 ga.shells were steel. I've also seen some conflicting info on velocity. Midway USA (where I got it from) says it's 1325 and on the Cabela's site it says 1450. Does anyone have much experience with this stuff and have an opinion on it? good/bad/average? Thanks, Hookster

Thanks for all the specs!! weight on the M80 is not quite as bad as I thought it might be. But, like you said the rail covers choice will affect things. I have both magpul xtms and ladder rails standing by. The Larue mount with the Pride-Fowler is the lowest profile of the iron dot styles that they offer but looking at the scale in the picture with the quarter, I think it's doubtful that it would co-witness. I'm also now looking at this Trijicon red dot that only weighs .5 oz and will take 5000G impact. http://www.trijicon.com/user/parts/products1.cfm?PartID=577&back_row=1&categoryID=13 Here's the mount: http://www.trijicon.com/user/parts/products1.cfm?PartID=560&back_row=4&categoryID=13 and the wings: http://www.trijicon.com/user/parts/products1.cfm?PartID=693&back_row=4&categoryID=13

Not cheap but Numrich has bolts for SBE II and other models as well. http://www.e-gunparts.com/product.asp?chrProductSKU=739920&MC= Hookster

Hi Mark, short answer=no. It would have to have a conventional (non pistol grip) stock OR the pistol grip stock and some type of disabled mag release making it a "non detachable magazine". (like the bullet button or prince 50 setups used on CA legal AR builds on off list receivers) Hookster

Hi Jones, This site lists some Db levels for different gauges and barrel lengths. Basically 150 Db + http://www.freehearingtest.com/hia_gunfirenoise.shtml Hookster

Thanks Woof!