Sukhoi_fan

It's every American's duty and right to defend one's family, community, state, nation. It's high time we talk and act like adults about our dilemma. We have a dilemma in the gravest extreme at the moment, and it's only getting worse every day. This fellow has a very stark message in his three minute video. NOTE: F bombs, NSFW! https://www.bitchute.com/video/mtzmgjUAslsX/ Last month the official number of invaders (that were actually counted, not including the uncounted invaders of course). What % of those 300k invaders do you suppose hate us and want to kill us? I know...A LOT! So those of you sitting on the fence regarding purchasing a Benelli tactical semi-auto or a Beretta 1301 tactical shotgun, I suggest you get on a stick and complete the purchase, get it in your hands. If a Benelli or Beretta is a budget buster for you then the minimum I would suggest getting is the Remington VersaMax tactical shotgun which is slightly less than the Benelli M2. Those are the ONLY shotguns I would trust - JMO. Then purchase as much 12 ga. ammo that you can afford (this is in addition to your EBR and handgun). Get you arms and get those arms squared away. Time is short, I suspect the invasion army will be given their marching/deployment orders within months if not weeks. I submit that one should NOT consider getting ANY slide action (i.e. pump) shotgun. Slide action shotguns are not really suitable for noobs, it takes a LOT of training (meaning burning up a lot of ammo to get there) to get one's muscle memory to the point that one won't short stroke the action when under stressfire. BTDT

The M1 Abrams has a 120mm smooth bore and shoots sabots to an effective range of 2 km. A barrel full of lead is a PITA even with a stainless tornado brush on a drill, I'll use anything but rifled slugs to avoid having to deal with that. And I don't see how a rifled slug is able to get any spin out of smooth bore so what's the point of having a rifled slug other than possibly pressure relief/gas check?

I'm high on the Ddupleks Dupo 28 or 32. You overlooked the sabot rounds. I'm also high on sabot rounds. Non-sabot slugs deposit lead in your bore. Also, rifled slugs gain no advantage in a smooth bore. https://ammoseek.com/ammo/12-gauge?ikw=sabot

Hornady Critical Defense 8-pellet 2 3/4 12 gauge buck 1600 fps Federal Premium Law Enforcement 8-pellet 2 3/4 12 gauge buck 1145 fps aka Federal 13300LE LOW RECOIL With the Hornady CD ammo at 1,600 FPS and the low recoil Federal 13300LE at 1,145 fps this isn't an apples to apples comparison. Naturally there's much more felt recoil with the Hornady 00 buck over low recoil ammo. Personally I prefer the Federal 12700LE (1,325 fps with nine 00 pellets) Flite Control because of not just better accuracy downrange but also better energy retention on target.

Suggest you monitor ebay and set up notification for when one gets listed.

I'm thinking the confusion stems from the title of your thread coupled with your OP. It appeared your query was about how many 3" rounds could the M4 with neutered magazine hold total including "1 in chamber." At least that's the impression I got.

For starters it's inadvisable to have one's weapon in battery UNLESS one is poised to shoot while training, practicing, hunting game or varmints, etc. Having a weapon in battery should never be regarded as a casual thing, it's a setup for a negligent discharge. Even highly trained cops have been known to have a negligent discharge because they forgot what condition their weapon was in. I'm extremely deliberate when having a weapon in battery, and I never leave a long arm in battery when not immediately in my hands or momentarily set down. My loaded semi-auto pistols (i.e. in battery) are always holstered in a level 1 retention holster if not on my body and the revolvers I have loaded are holstered and out of reach except for my own access. For me my holstered handguns = loaded, ready to go bang when you pull the trigger. With a modicum of training it only takes a split second to bring a Benelli semi-auto shotgun into battery, so there's really no advantage to keeping a round in the chamber as much as possible. And if doing social work one is definitely not going to be wandering around with a round in the chamber, that's simply a disaster looking for a place to happen. Be safe. As for 3" rounds, that's just a waste of magazine space to gain 3-4 pellets over 2 3/4" shells, e.g. one can get equivalent velocity or better out of Federal 12700 or Black Aces 00 buck both in 2 3/4" shells. There are other reasons for not using 3" shells. If you're interested in upping your capacity on the shotgun then I recommend using a shot shell card on the side of the receiver and a stock sleeve that holds 5 rounds, that combo has the potential to give you up to 17-18 rounds total in/on the shotgun (if a five round magazine) the moment you pick it up. In a storm you're just going to grab your gun and join the party, in exigent circumstances there's no time to be screwing around grabbing other stuff to suit up with, you're going to grab it and go, better make it as good as possible. Again, DO NOT treat a long arm (or any arm) in battery casually, ever.

Yeah, I've got the same simple device, it's my trigger finger. A varmint may grab the end of the barrel momentarily however that varmint will be letting go in a flash, literally.

IF you're serious about selling and not just screwing around I suggest you list it on ebay and/or gunbroker and see what the market will bear. I think you'll be surprised if you list it on ebay although it may sit there awhile. I have one but I won't be selling it.

Don't drop the Mossy, you'll break it. There is a fix, but without the fix it's easily broken when the shell lifter gets knocked out of place. Trying to rack the slide at that point makes it worse. I had a gunsmith put the fix to my Shockwave (drilled and tapped the studs on both sides of shell lifter then added nylon or delrin washers and fasteners). You never know when you may drop your weapon unexpectedly, and Mossys are guaranteed to have the shell lifter pop out of position when dropped. Mossberg claims to have no knowledge of this when asked about it, "Oh, that's news to us! We've never heard of any such thing!"

If and when one calls Benelli USA one can ultimately talk to one of the three forum mods. Perhaps they hire out the tech aspect and set up of the forum software because whomever set up this forum has forum software savvy which I doubt that Benelli has in-house.

HOW did you come to this conclusion?? If not Benelli then who do you think owns this forum??

There are some of us who diligently report spam on this forum. It wouldn't take much of anything to assign a staffer (there are three who are forum admins) to monitor their email during a holiday break and deal with the problem in a timely fashion when the spam report emails pour in. This problem of the holiday forum hijacks is only going to get worse in the future if not checked.

While the cat's away the rat will play.

A inquiry like that is best made by going to the source, suggest you contact Benelli for the most accurate info.

You do what you have to do, ear protection, can, or not.

Shotgun tactics and usage are much different than pistol or rifle tactics and usage imo. I've never seen the benefit of a detachable mag fed shotgun, only liability, as least for stand alone use with no backup or support. I like to be able to top off the magazine on a shotgun on the fly. IMO detachable mag fed shottys are not nearly as versatile as tube fed mag, if for nothing other than to be able to immediately switch loads.

Kill 'em with kindness, of course.

For inside: Shockwave or CZ Scorpion EVO 3 For outside around the house: Benelli M4 for social work, won't say on the other option around the house, but it's not for social work

That's the beauty of the 121M1, it won't run unless you know how to make it run so if a bad guy picks it up without a round in the chamber there will be a hitch in his get-along. There used to be an aftermarket accessory for the 121M1 made by a couple of different vendors, this 'Benelli button' would be installed onto the bolt release button (really slightly extending it with a surface for a purchase), and with a flick of the Benelli button a round would be released from the magazine onto the elevator. Then one could cycle the bolt to bring it into battery. Way cool. Unfortunately if those Benelli buttons are long gone and if you don't already have one installed then you won't have that option and you're stuck with dropping a round into the ejection port. I suggest getting a fabric shell holder slipped onto the stock or one of the velcro shotshell cards on the side of the receiver...gotta have a loose round handy to make it go bang!

Yes.

Try slowing down and being more deliberate with shot placement. What's the point of a high speed mag dump anyway??

Photo of dead shooter shows an AR on the concrete next to him.

If we're taking inventory I have 15 Aimpoints (eight Micros, three PROs, four CompM4s) and 2 EOTechs, and some other stuff, but no low end red dots, don't trust 'em. And NO, I'm not a gunsmith.

Great shotgun, unfortunately spare parts (such as wooden buttstock or aftermarket synthetic buttstocks) are non-existent. Benelli quit making the 121M1 like 35 years ago.