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On the low end of the spectrum there's the Foster pattern lead slug and the Brenneke pattern lead slug, many prefer the Brenneke slug. Suggest you research Foster and Benneke slugs. (Brenneke still regarded as a genius a century later) There are other alternatives for instances where a slug may be called for, this youtuber posts about all sorts of 12 ga. slugs https://www.youtube.com/@taofledermaus/videos So you have options. Personally I'm not a big fan of the 1 oz. lead slugs in either the Foster or Brenneke pattern. For one thing I don't like having to clean a leaded up barrel from shooting lead slugs, and the other is I can get better and more versatile results from a variety of DDupleks steel slugs. DDupleks rounds are much more expensive than lead slugs. The DDupleks Monolit rounds are apparently unavailable in the USA at this time. I stocked up on DDupleks slugs years ago when DDupleks slugs were much cheaper. https://www.ddupleks.com/products DDupleks introduced a frangible slug they call the Kaviar since I loaded up on DDupleks slugs years ago. Kinda like a Glazer safety slug, it has much lower muzzle velocity and energy, making it safer overall when innocent bystanders are in the immediate environment. And just like a Glaser slug there are limited instances where you'd use it, just another tool in your toolbox. YMMV

I'm guessing your trainers meant high brass and not high base, probably because they want to train you using shot shells that aren't wimpy so you get to feel the full effect of a higher powered round. You want to avoid 'low recoil' rounds for this reason when taking a shotgun training course. An easy way to judge how much recoil one can expect is to check out the feet per second (FPS) of a particular round you're considering. 1,500 FPS in the Federal Prairie Storm ammo is on the higher end and definitely not low recoil. IMO 'low recoil' shotgun rounds are anything below 1,300 FPS. The Federal Prairie Rounds you're considering would be perfectly suitable for your training course purposes as you're definitely going to get the full effect. If a manufacturer doesn't state the FPS spec then they should indicate 'dram equivalent', and here's an article with a chart for that - https://www.ammoforsale.com/ammo-club/what-is-dram-12-gauge-equivalent-chart/ Buy in bulk and $ave - https://ammoseek.com/

One can always get a Benelli M2 with a 26" barrel to be used as a drone killer...then one could install a much longer mag tube for much more capacity.

Is heat a factor? Are you storing your loaded shotgun in a vehicle subject to getting high interior temperatures in the summer? Or is this happening in a climate controlled environment?

Blain, I know that the folks at Benelli are very interested in helping you resolve your issue with your C-stock collapsing while doing rapid fire. And I know that you sent your M4 into Benelli with that issue and the Benelli gunsmiths were unable to replicate that problem even when rapid firing. They would like to see a video of you or anyone else rapid firing your M4 and having the C-stock collapse. So I suggest you record of a video of this happening and send it to the folks at Benelli so they can help you get a resolution.

I just dropped URL into post. Trick shooter Tom Knapp with his Benelli M2 -

If it's a Benelli two round extension that doesn't help your USA parts count. If a made in USA two round extension those are generally crap and are only +1 from my experience (on a M4 I bought used). On the lower end of made in USA mag tubes is a Dave's Metal Works full length mag.. There's also a forum member that offers a fine quality made in USA tube however I don't recall his username atm.

I don't know why you spammers bother. You spend all the time and effort to register on this forum, then you spend time composing a post or two with what you think is a cleverly hidden link. All that effort on your part and it takes us only three seconds and two clicks to negate all your time and effort. What a bunch of losers you spammers are.

An alternative to disassembly would be to put the straw in the nozzle of a can of Gunscrubber and blast out what you want gone.

I'd say with the picatinny rail, the MLOK slots, and options for more picatinny rails you can mount just about any tactical light available.

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JMO, but I would advise against using any light oil on the choke threads. A grease of some type will act as a gas check to prevent gas fouling of the threads whereas a light oil will contribute to the fouling over time (for those of us who don't remove the choke and clean it after each use).

Suggest you watch gunbroker and feebay, sometimes there's a deal.

Drones are definitely a problem now and getting worse going into the future. Suggest you take that into account in your shotgun and ammo preps planning. https://www.twz.com/news-features/drone-warfares-terrifying-ai-enabled-next-step-is-imminent

Very nice. Where's the 121M1? Is there a H&K S90 M1 in your family photo?

Website has only been up for about six months, definitely looks very hinky, suggest you avoid and keep looking. https://web.archive.org/web/20230715000000*/https://buybenellishotguns.com/ Also, if looking for an 'authorized dealer' go to the source and contact Benelli.

My two cents on ammo: I avoid shooting slugs because I don't like have to clean the lead out of my barrel, major PITA. I prefer DDupleks over Foster or Brenneke slugs. I suggest using 2 3/4" rounds, the cost of 3" rounds is just not worth the extra expense when 2 3/4" has pretty much the same effect IMO. Practice ammo - the cheapest you can get, whether bird shot or 00 buck. Check out www.ammoseek.com if you haven't already. Home defense/neighborhood watch ammo - my first preference is Federal 00 buck Law Enforcement rounds with FliteControl in either Low Recoil 1,145 fps or 1,325 fps, however there are other 00 buck options that are equally suitable for dangerous varmints from quality manufacturers such as Winchester, Hornady, Federal (not FliteControl), Fiocchi, Nobel Sport, S&B, Black Aces, and Remington. One consideration is how much recoil you're willing to deal with, and you can gauge the recoil by the velocity in fps. When in a storm and injured, using higher velocity rounds with greater recoil to manage might not turn out so well. Hanging onto a shotgun while shooting 1,600 fps Hornady rounds if one is weak from being gravely injured will be a challenge. For those concerned about blasting 00 buck through walls and hitting innocent parties IMO the minimum for that application would be #4 buck shot, which is typically 27 .22 caliber pellets. For self defense one should only use any 12 ga. ammo which is suitable for KILLING animals from 50-300 lbs., anything less lethal is subject to causing you a problem IMO. I'm also a big fan of 000 buck for home defense ammo. Drone elimination ammo - I had been thinking that #4 buck would be optimum, but larger buck shot will have greater range, so it's a trade off.

Indeed, it's VERY important to know local laws, and whether or not you have a woke Soros DA. The criminal in the first case had broken into a SUV to steal the stereo in the wee hours of the AM, the homeowner was awakened by activity in his carport, stepped out with his shotgun and nailed him square in the back which fleeing up the driveway. Unknown about whether he had the car stereo in hand when nailed, however I don't think actually seeing the thief with stolen goods in hand is a pre-requisite to doing a service to the community (I think the law says something law says something like 'a reasonable person who reasonably believes' a thief is making off with one's stuff between the hours of sunset and sunrise - NOT legal advice, DYODD! Remember: shooting a bad guy who deserves it is easy, the aftermath is the problem, which is why deescalation is important as is creating distance.)

In Texas it's perfectly legal for a 'reasonable person' to shoot a fleeing thief at night (I know of one case locally several years ago where a homeowner shot a fleeing thief in the back at night with a shotgun killing him and the grand jury no billed him [the varmint was attempting to steal a car stereo], there was also a case in Houston where someone getting their truck repossessed in the wee hours of the morning shot the repo guy in the back with a .30-30 as he was driving off, killing him - the Harris County grand jury no billed that guy as well, in both instances the shooters were protecting their own property from theft at night [one cannot legally use deadly force to protect someone else's property in Texas]). Additionally, in Texas it's legal to shoot arsonists day or night.

Sadly, none of mine are unblemished.

After watching a lot of videos out of Ukraine on drone use I'm thinking #4 buck would be optimum for drone elimination duty. https://www.bitchute.com/video/q4oqOFHJGUEM/

From my experience one has to be logged in with an approved account in order to utilize the advanced search to see the completed listings, no go otherwise.

I never buy choke tube lube, there's always an auto parts store nearby carrying Permatex Anti-Seize lube. In a pinch I'm thinking a very thin coat of RectorSeal #5 which can be found in plumbing supplies would suffice just fine.

First hand account of heavily used shotguns of various brands at a high volume range in LV, Benelli M4 is the king of the hill - https://www.ar15.com/forums/armory/High-round-count-shotguns-to-include-Mossberg--Remington--Benelli-and-Chinese-clones/1-474035/