TeamGSD Posted October 30, 2014 Posted October 30, 2014 I got rid of the blam4 mount and my streamlight. What size of ava tactical mount do I want? Also what light do I want????!! Please post pictures and your suggestions if you have one. I was thinking of surefire. Also I hated the blam4 mount with the streamlight. Created too much barrel shine (shadow). Will I have this problem with ava tactical and a light? Quote
bhunted Posted October 30, 2014 Posted October 30, 2014 There is a thread here with tons of recomendations for that mount and light as well as photos... Quote
AVATactical.com Posted November 1, 2014 Posted November 1, 2014 Appreciate the interest. It really comes down to if you have a prefernce for a specific light or not. If not, do you prefer a particular size - the main catagories being E Series / Scout which are .8 Inch vs 6 Series or 1 Inch lights. There are many compatible clones and series made with these basic formats. My favorite configuration is the E Series with the KE2-A emitter, it is a very compact package. But the way the light is tucked in, the 1 inch lights don't protrude much either. There is a shadow, however. It does not bother most. The placement that the AVA uses allows activation of the light without a remote switch, is also ideal for mounting surface as well as sling placement. I did consider for a bit, making one that clamped to the front barrel hanger - but this would have been a significantly less popular choice. Volume is already a challenge with anything specifically for the M4. AVA Quote
StrangerDanger Posted November 7, 2014 Posted November 7, 2014 Surefire KE2-A Head http://www.amazon.com/SureFire-KE2-A-WeaponLight-Conversion-Black/dp/B00I3FW01G Surefire L4 Lumamax (Body and Tail Cap Z61) http://www.amazon.com/SureFire-L4-LumaMax-Single-Output-LED/dp/B000E24I16 This is a pretty cost effective method of getting a great weapon light package. 500 lumens, momentary/constant on tail cap. E series body. Quote
calviroman Posted November 8, 2014 Posted November 8, 2014 SD -- the cost the the SF head is pretty gnarly, does Malkoff make a drop in for the Lumamax? If so, you could buy one of his drop-ins for about $50 and install it into the L4. I'm running a 6P w/ Z59 tailcap and Malkoff drop-in. Quote
M2_shootr Posted November 8, 2014 Posted November 8, 2014 (edited) I got rid of the blam4 mount and my streamlight..... Many of us have gone that route to replace it with the AVA mount. I have the Surefire E2L, works well for my needs. Many chose a brighter light this is an older 60 lumens model. Edited November 8, 2014 by M2_shootr Quote
ning1986 Posted November 9, 2014 Posted November 9, 2014 I'm also in the process of finding the mount for my Benelli M4. But even with the available options, I'm still not quiet satasified. For example. I like the BLAM4 mount for its size and convenience and simplicity. However, I'm worry about the sturdiness, since it only grabs onto one location. I'm also a bit worry about how it copes with recoil with the light mounted. I've also look at the AVA mount, it looks nice, and have lots of contact points with the shotgun, however I'm interested on mounting streamlight tlr1- hl, which means I have to mount it on the accessory rail, making the scope mount unnecessary. I was hoping that AVA can make/adjust the mount so there are two accessory rails. I'm not aware of any other options, does anyone have any recommendations? Quote
StrangerDanger Posted November 9, 2014 Posted November 9, 2014 If you do not need the ring mount, simply leave it off. Love those 14" M4's. Never used a Malkoff light. I probably have about 40 Surefire products. I guess you could say I'm brand loyal since they've never failed me. Quote
M2_shootr Posted November 9, 2014 Posted November 9, 2014 As far as the mount.........for an M4 it doesn't get any better than the AVA! I looked at everything available for over a year. Quote
ning1986 Posted November 9, 2014 Posted November 9, 2014 AVA is a nice mount, but for those that would like to mount a very specific weapon light, on a very specific side of the gun, guess we're out of luck until AVA decide to make additional options. Quote
M2_shootr Posted November 9, 2014 Posted November 9, 2014 Sounds like you need to design, market and manufacture a light mount! Quote
AVATactical.com Posted November 10, 2014 Posted November 10, 2014 (edited) AVA is a nice mount, but for those that would like to mount a very specific weapon light, on a very specific side of the gun, guess we're out of luck until AVA decide to make additional options. The costs to make something like that for just a few would be prohibitive. You're talking about $2000 in machining to make at that volume. I can say that because I had three prototypes made when developing the product. The question then becomes - is a custom mount solution worth 2k to you - or is it more palatable to consider other lights? Only you can decide what is right for you. The mount, BTW, is ambidextrous. You can mount with the rail on either side of the firearm. And you can mount the TLR series with it. The only problem is your light ring side will either go unused or you will need to find some other utility for it. Edited November 10, 2014 by AVATactical.com Quote
StrangerDanger Posted November 10, 2014 Posted November 10, 2014 Has anyone tried to mount a GoPro to the little side rail of the AVA mount? Quote
AVATactical.com Posted November 10, 2014 Posted November 10, 2014 Has anyone tried to mount a GoPro to the little side rail of the AVA mount? I want to see this. There are enough different rail mounts for it out there I am certain it can be done. Maybe I will keep that rail on there for 2.0. Quote
StrangerDanger Posted November 10, 2014 Posted November 10, 2014 The new GoPro's are pretty awesome. 4k video is pretty bad ass. Or the 1080i in slow motion would be pretty cool. The whole thing weighs about 3.5 ounces too. Quote
AggiePhil Posted November 26, 2014 Posted November 26, 2014 This is a good thread. I too have struggled with choosing the best "from scratch" light/AVA mount combo. AVATactical.com, could you or someone else post photos of an M4 with your mount and a Streamlight TLR-1 attached to the railed side, preferably on the left side of the gun? Quote
AVATactical.com Posted November 29, 2014 Posted November 29, 2014 Hey Aggie - Sorry for the slow response, I have been traveling for the holidays, etc. I had a friend take this - I know it's not on the left side, I think this demonstrates where it would sit, etc. I can probably get more pictures in a few days if needed. Joel @ AVA http://i.imgur.com/ZwfeXKJ.jpg Quote
AggiePhil Posted November 29, 2014 Posted November 29, 2014 It'd be nice if the QD sockets were on both sides OD the mount so someone wanting to use the rail mount instead of the ring mount could also attach a sling to that side. Maybe there isn't enough room there for this or something. Quote
StrangerDanger Posted November 30, 2014 Posted November 30, 2014 In my experience, I never found the activation switch on pistol lights to go real well with shotguns when actually firing the weapon. There is a lot of opportunity in jamming your fingers. Particularly with buck and slug loads. The typical Scout light shrouded tailcap presents the same problem. The exposed rubber unit of the Z61 I mentioned above is much better. If you're ridding your thumb on the back of the button for momentary control of the light, you'll learn something about recoil. Quote
StrangerDanger Posted December 9, 2014 Posted December 9, 2014 Beautiful. The only way it would be better is with a 14" barrel! It literally took 9 years of bitching to get this light mount built. Quote
M2_shootr Posted December 9, 2014 Posted December 9, 2014 The mount is damn sweet.......I may upgrade to a bit brighter light. But I am extremely happy wit this set up! Quote
StrangerDanger Posted December 9, 2014 Posted December 9, 2014 Is that one of those older heads that are like 45 lumen? The 500 lumen monsters are nice. I wouldn't use the fury model even though it claims 600 lumens. It's more of a flood beam and you end up with a lot more perceived barrel shadow. Quote
M2_shootr Posted December 9, 2014 Posted December 9, 2014 Would have to look and check. From experience, I don't want anything more than about 125. much more than that and you blind yourself with the reflective light from the interior walls. Quote
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