Mberlin74 Posted November 20, 2022 Share Posted November 20, 2022 Thanks for all the great info on this forum. I’ve been lurking about here for ages gathering info for my BM4 which I finally picked up. I’ve been on a mission to start gathering some of the parts I’d like to mod it with and I’m really having a rough time making a decision over these two optics. If there are any of you out there with real world experience on either of these optics coupled with your BM4, I’d really appreciate any feedback, comments or suggestions. Thanks in advance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mberlin74 Posted November 21, 2022 Author Share Posted November 21, 2022 Wow no takers? Ok. It’s all good. Thinking about the T2 now over the Comp M5s. So it’s between the SRO and the T2. Likely to go with the T2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rasyad Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 I run an Aimpoint T2 on a 1.53 Scallarworks mount and am really happy with the compact size and easy control of the dot brightness. Rasyad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mberlin74 Posted November 21, 2022 Author Share Posted November 21, 2022 Thanks for the info. I didn’t actually realize there were different height scalerworks mounts available. I thought the Synch/02 was just the Synch/02. Much appreciated Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rubicon20032003 Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 H2 or T2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mberlin74 Posted November 21, 2022 Author Share Posted November 21, 2022 1 hour ago, rubicon20032003 said: H2 or T2 Looking at the Aimpoint T2. I guess my only real concern is the weight difference and my peripheral view. Do you or does anyone notice a huge difference when looking through the smaller SRO versus the bigger and bulkier T2? Or is this a moot point? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mberlin74 Posted November 21, 2022 Author Share Posted November 21, 2022 Went with the T2. Got it on sale today for $625. Couldn’t pass that up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kahamu Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 T2 or P2. Ran both, prefer the P2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milspec Posted November 22, 2022 Share Posted November 22, 2022 (edited) 14 hours ago, Mberlin74 said: Went with the T2. Got it on sale today for $625. Couldn’t pass that up. That’s a good price. Where did you score that? Edited November 22, 2022 by Milspec Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mberlin74 Posted November 22, 2022 Author Share Posted November 22, 2022 (edited) 32 minutes ago, Milspec said: That’s a good price. Where did you score that? Bullseye North in London Ontario. 15% off plus it was the last one which was open box. Got more off for that too. It was a model that came with no base mount which was perfect for me as I didn’t want it anyway. I’m going with the scalerworks mount. And yes, that’s in USD. Being that this is an American forum, I converted what I spent in Canadian to USD. Edited November 22, 2022 by Mberlin74 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sonyman74 Posted November 23, 2022 Share Posted November 23, 2022 SRO for me. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mberlin74 Posted November 23, 2022 Author Share Posted November 23, 2022 11 hours ago, sonyman74 said: SRO for me. Is that just your personal opinion? Just what you like better? Or are there reasons why you would choose the SRO over the T2? Are there negatives in your experience that you’ve encountered or read about using the T2 on the M4? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rasyad Posted November 23, 2022 Share Posted November 23, 2022 On 11/20/2022 at 11:05 PM, Rasyad said: I run an Aimpoint T2 on a 1.53 Scallarworks mount and am really happy with the compact size and easy control of the dot brightness. Rasyad Whoops, I have a correction. On my Benelli M4 I run the Aimpoint T2 with the OEM quick release mount right on the picatinny rail. (AR pistol uses the 1.53 mount) With a shotgun or rifle cheek weld you should not have any issues finding the T2 dot or field of view. Both eyes are open and the dot looks like it is floating on the target. Rasyad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mberlin74 Posted November 23, 2022 Author Share Posted November 23, 2022 1 hour ago, Rasyad said: Whoops, I have a correction. On my Benelli M4 I run the Aimpoint T2 with the OEM quick release mount right on the picatinny rail. (AR pistol uses the 1.53 mount) With a shotgun or rifle cheek weld you should not have any issues finding the T2 dot or field of view. Both eyes are open and the dot looks like it is floating on the target. Rasyad Thanks Rasyad. so I’m assuming with that setup you’re not running with a co witnesses set up? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mberlin74 Posted November 25, 2022 Author Share Posted November 25, 2022 Can anyone tell me what the benefit / drawback is to a co witness set up? I’m not sure I really see the point. If you’re lining up your irons so your red dot is superimposed over your front sight, what’s the point of the red dot in this scenario? Might as well just use your iron sights……right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fullassault Posted November 25, 2022 Share Posted November 25, 2022 4 hours ago, Mberlin74 said: Can anyone tell me what the benefit / drawback is to a co witness set up? I’m not sure I really see the point. If you’re lining up your irons so your red dot is superimposed over your front sight, what’s the point of the red dot in this scenario? Might as well just use your iron sights……right? The benefit is you have your irons & dot together so You have redundancy the drawback is you have to use the stock at its full extension and if something happens to the lens there’s a good chance you lose the use of both sights. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mberlin74 Posted November 25, 2022 Author Share Posted November 25, 2022 7 hours ago, Fullassault said: The benefit is you have your irons & dot together so You have redundancy the drawback is you have to use the stock at its full extension and if something happens to the lens there’s a good chance you lose the use of both sights. But if your optic lens hypothetically breaks, you'd lose both sights regardless of whether its co witnessed or not. Right? So when you say "redundancy", it sounds like you're just saying that its more of a "piece of mind" thing that your POA is true to your POI? It just seems to me that if you're after a red dot sight it would be so that you don't need to line up the irons thus becoming quicker for it. I feel like I'm missing something. There must be another practical reason for co witnessed sights other than re assurance that your POA and POI are aligned. The only other reason that I can think of, is that you'd only need to learn 1 muscle memory for both a co witnessed set up and for straight iron sights. Everyone please chime in with your experience, insight and infinite wisdom. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fullassault Posted November 25, 2022 Share Posted November 25, 2022 9 hours ago, Mberlin74 said: But if your optic lens hypothetically breaks, you'd lose both sights regardless of whether its co witnessed or not. Right? So when you say "redundancy", it sounds like you're just saying that its more of a "piece of mind" thing that your POA is true to your POI? It just seems to me that if you're after a red dot sight it would be so that you don't need to line up the irons thus becoming quicker for it. I feel like I'm missing something. There must be another practical reason for co witnessed sights other than re assurance that your POA and POI are aligned. The only other reason that I can think of, is that you'd only need to learn 1 muscle memory for both a co witnessed set up and for straight iron sights. Everyone please chime in with your experience, insight and infinite wisdom. Not necessarily. In this situation the only cowitness mounts are fixed. Co witnessing your BUIS and optics really has little to do with checking your POA alignment more to do with if your dot stops working you can continue with your BUIS without having to stop in the middle of a firefight to get your firearm functioning again. It’s really just a matter of preference. I don’t co witnesses mine because I’d rather have the option to use a QD mount and run my stock a click shorter. If something happens to my RMR, I pop it off and run iron sights at the next convenient opportunity . Being a shotgun pin point long range accuracy isn’t quite as much of a priority as a rifle for my purposes so close range accuracy even without sights isn’t going to suffer much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mberlin74 Posted November 25, 2022 Author Share Posted November 25, 2022 22 minutes ago, Fullassault said: Not necessarily. In this situation the only cowitness mounts are fixed. Co witnessing your BUIS and optics really has little to do with checking your POA alignment more to do with if your dot stops working you can continue with your BUIS without having to stop in the middle of a firefight to get your firearm functioning again. It’s really just a matter of preference. I don’t co witnesses mine because I’d rather have the option to use a QD mount and run my stock a click shorter. If something happens to my RMR, I pop it off and run iron sights at the next convenient opportunity . Being a shotgun pin point long range accuracy isn’t quite as much of a priority as a rifle for my purposes so close range accuracy even without sights isn’t going to suffer much. I like the idea of a QD mount for the optic. This way it’s simply a red dot to deal with and not a red dot AND the irons. Looks like I have more to consider. Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fullassault Posted November 26, 2022 Share Posted November 26, 2022 5 hours ago, Mberlin74 said: I like the idea of a QD mount for the optic. This way it’s simply a red dot to deal with and not a red dot AND the irons. Looks like I have more to consider. Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mberlin74 Posted November 26, 2022 Author Share Posted November 26, 2022 Any suggestions for QD mounts for the T2 and the SRO? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xblax619 Posted November 27, 2022 Share Posted November 27, 2022 7 hours ago, Mberlin74 said: Any suggestions for QD mounts for the T2 and the SRO? i don’t run an aimpoint but i have a holosun 503G on an American Defense AD-T1-L qd mount which has the same footprint for a T1/T2. mine is mounted to the benelli oem rail. it blocks the iron sights making them unusable but it is qd so can be removed quickly if need be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sonyman74 Posted December 3, 2022 Share Posted December 3, 2022 Well, I love my SRO on this Mesa Tactical side saddle mount. It is not on a QD but If it fails I can still use my factory sites. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RxArms Posted December 3, 2022 Share Posted December 3, 2022 11 hours ago, sonyman74 said: Well, I love my SRO on this Mesa Tactical side saddle mount. It is not on a QD but If it fails I can still use my factory sites. How high does your rear peep need to be to cowitness? What yardage? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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