Webfoot Posted May 31, 2005 Posted May 31, 2005 I've heard that Benelli is going to release an updated, sort of speak, model of the SBE II this August. This new model is supposed to have some of the minor problems corrected from the previous release of SBE II's. I can't tell you what problems. 1) Is this true and what are some of the problems? 2) Is there a way to tell what release the gun is from? I've decided to save some pennies and hold out for a Benelli. Now I have to decide if I want the original model or spend an extra couple hundred and get the II. What do you think? Thanks Quote
mudhen Posted May 31, 2005 Posted May 31, 2005 Have not heard a thing from the Benelli west coast rep about the new SBE III. I'll press him on it this week. I'll forward your post to him today. But I doubt he would say much if they still have many SBE II's to sell. So, maybe I'll just start an internet rumor that the SBE II has already been disco'ed. That ought to get NelliGirl's interest..... mudhen - CA Quote
hard-core_waterfowler Posted May 31, 2005 Posted May 31, 2005 it depends if you want to shoot 3 1/2 inch shells i would get the II because the sbe wont shoot supermag shells. Quote
Webfoot Posted May 31, 2005 Author Posted May 31, 2005 Are you telling me that the Super Black Eagle, the model prior to the SBE II does not shoot 3 1/2" shells? Ah, Look again. Quote
sprigsss Posted May 31, 2005 Posted May 31, 2005 I"ve yet to have a single problem with my SBE and any shell. I shot 4-5 boxes of 3" and 3 1/2" steel shot through it and since then I've shot everything from 1 oz. dove loads to 3 1/2" buckshot and I haven't had a single jam yet. Quote
mudhen Posted May 31, 2005 Posted May 31, 2005 All my SBE's have shot all the ammo I have tried; from WalMart dove loads, to 3.5" Matrix, to all sorts of sabot & foster slugs, buckshot, even that goofy tracer crap with the metal ball that glowed. mudhen - CA Quote
EFLOYD Posted June 2, 2005 Posted June 2, 2005 My SBEII has shot everything I put in it....like mudhen.....from WallyWorld 7/8oz loads up through heavy 3.5s.....not a gliche yet. AND, has survived it's first season in the salt marshes and mud. Quote
tucker301 Posted June 2, 2005 Posted June 2, 2005 Lightest I've gone is the recommended minimum, but it has performed flawlessly. Meanwhile, my blindmate sprayed a half a can of WD-40 into his 1187 in one morning Quote
HavocTec Posted June 3, 2005 Posted June 3, 2005 Might work better if he chucks the 1187 aside & tries the flame thrower technique with a lighter and WD-40 instead. The ducks will never know what hit 'em! Come down cooked and ready eat! Just make sure to keep the blind cover (grass/reeds) out of the way of the flame! Quote
sdkidaho Posted June 4, 2005 Posted June 4, 2005 Looking forward to hear more about your rumor. Still saving my pennies for my SBEII, but just in case I don't mind waiting til after August if this is true. Quote
Drundel Posted June 11, 2005 Posted June 11, 2005 I've looked over my SBEII pretty good and compared it to the SBE and the main thing I see wrong is the **** swivel on the end cap. BAD design. I think flush chokes tubes are a joke as well, but I doubt tahts it. Interested in seeing more rumors. Quote
Choclabman Posted June 26, 2005 Posted June 26, 2005 Originally posted by Drundel: I've looked over my SBEII pretty good and compared it to the SBE and the main thing I see wrong is the **** swivel on the end cap. BAD design. I think flush chokes tubes are a joke as well, but I doubt tahts it. Interested in seeing more rumors. What;s wrong the the end cap swivel? Hush Swivels work wonderful on mine. I do agree about the chokes. Flush mount chokes, should be outlawed. [ 06-26-2005, 02:17 PM: Message edited by: BLKLABMAN ] Quote
sdkidaho Posted June 27, 2005 Posted June 27, 2005 Originally posted by BLKLABMAN: What;s wrong the the end cap swivel? Hush Swivels work wonderful on mine. I do agree about the chokes. Flush mount chokes, should be outlawed. Look at this thread to see what's wrong with the swivel. Quote
mudhen Posted June 27, 2005 Posted June 27, 2005 Mine's all beat up now, even with the plastic swivels, from just a few turkey hunts. No big deal, but I expected so much more from a $1500 gun....... ( )...... mudhen - CA Quote
bjtank Posted June 28, 2005 Posted June 28, 2005 I have a friend that has had trouble with his brand new SBE II not shooting straight. The gunsmith he took it to told him that he has heard the same trouble from many other people. This may be reason to change the design. He say the trouble may be with the cold treating of the barrels is causing them to shot a little off. His shot way high at twenty yards. This caused him to miss two turkeys before finding the problem. I have an older modle of the super black eagle and have had no problems with it no matter what I am shooting. but this may be the troubles that need to be fixed. Quote
mudhen Posted June 28, 2005 Posted June 28, 2005 My SBE II shoots dead, dead, on. So have all my SBE's going back to 1991. The Crio causing a gun to be 'off' is silly. I wish a gunsmith would just say 'I don't know' a little more often. Your buddy deserved to lose the two toms for not patterning his gun prior to going afield. He caused the misses, not the gun. Guns don't miss, people miss.... Many do not know where to aim a Benelli shotgun to get it to hit where you want it to. I have patterned maybe 15 Benellis and all pattern turkey loads about the same. Maybe because I use the same choke type in all? I aim at the base of the neck, and the pattern seems to cover the upper neck and head area evenly. If you aim at the top part of the head, you risk a miss, especially at close ranges when your pattern is so tight. I won't say patterning a Benelli is easy. They are fickle. It took me 6-7 tubes + 4-5 different shells to figure out what my SBE II liked the best. mudhen - CA Quote
dagrizz Posted June 28, 2005 Posted June 28, 2005 Originally posted by bjtank: I have a friend that has had trouble with his brand new SBE II not shooting straight. The gunsmith he took it to told him that he has heard the same trouble from many other people. This may be reason to change the design. He say the trouble may be with the cold treating of the barrels is causing them to shot a little off. His shot way high at twenty yards. This caused him to miss two turkeys before finding the problem. I have an older modle of the super black eagle and have had no problems with it no matter what I am shooting. but this may be the troubles that need to be fixed. Have your friend check his gun mount. If he is looking straign down the barrel and not seeing rib or verry little then he should be dead on. If he is seeing to much rib then it will shoot high. If he is the other way then he would shoot low. This is if I have my info correct. Other wise it will be the other way around. Mike It is all a mattter of gun fit. Quote
Choclabman Posted June 29, 2005 Posted June 29, 2005 I had not heard that about the swivels caps. But I have been away from the internet for awhile. Thanks for the link. I used my 2 SBE II's last season, and this spring for Turkey. Swivel caps still look good, and POA on both is Dead On. I have NO complaints. Quote
cnewt14 Posted July 4, 2005 Posted July 4, 2005 hey dont bang my 1187 that was my first gun, it killed many a clay birdie..not very many ducks though. but just got the sbe great gun no complaints. but the swivle thing scares me Quote
sdkidaho Posted July 10, 2005 Posted July 10, 2005 Originally posted by Webfoot: I've heard that Benelli is going to release an updated, sort of speak, model of the SBE II this August. This new model is supposed to have some of the minor problems corrected from the previous release of SBE II's. I can't tell you what problems. 1) Is this true and what are some of the problems? 2) Is there a way to tell what release the gun is from? I've decided to save some pennies and hold out for a Benelli. Now I have to decide if I want the original model or spend an extra couple hundred and get the II. What do you think? Thanks Originally posted by mudhen: Have not heard a thing from the Benelli west coast rep about the new SBE III. I'll press him on it this week. I'll forward your post to him today. mudhen - CA Any word? Quote
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