NoTox Posted August 25, 2004 Share Posted August 25, 2004 I have two questions for you waterfowlers out there. First, have any of you used the Kent Fasteel shells? If so, what did you think of them? I am used to shooting Winchester Dryloks, but I'm thinking about changing. Second, has anyone used the Blackwater FUD decoys? They look like they would be great for where I hunt, and a lot easier to carry in. Any input is appreciated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
birddog Posted August 26, 2004 Share Posted August 26, 2004 have tried the kent .. but, Hevi-shot is where its at NoTox ... bi-pass the remington loads and go directly to Hevi-Shot/Envirometal and purchase theirs ... I'm not a fan of remingtons hunting loads. start with their 2-3/4" offerings in #4 and #6 shot then go from there. You'll be happy you did! sorry - no experience with the Blackwater FUD decoys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoTox Posted August 27, 2004 Author Share Posted August 27, 2004 I have thought about trying them, but I don't know if I can bring myself to spend $2.00 per shot. Also thought about trying to reload some Hevishot, and maybe bring the cost down. Us city employees down exactly make a whole lot of cash. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tj Posted August 30, 2004 Share Posted August 30, 2004 kent fasteel is some good stuff, especially for its price. i have been using it for years. the #4 shot over decoys is great for puddlers. one word of caution, fasteel has no waterseals so pay attention not to drop them in the water. the pellets are not plated and rust quickly. otherwise it is a great load for use over decoys. if it is a problem any shotgunshell can be sealed with wax and nail polish. good luck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoTox Posted August 31, 2004 Author Share Posted August 31, 2004 Thanks TJ, I will give them a shot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobng Posted September 4, 2004 Share Posted September 4, 2004 Hi No Tox, winchester Drylok is great for its pattern and price. I brought a lots big mallards and geese down with No.2,1 or BB. but not beyond 70 yards, not unless using 31/2. I tend to try Hevi-shots but I can't afford the price equally true for Bimuth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sleepydoc Posted September 13, 2004 Share Posted September 13, 2004 Kent is a pretty good round and one of the fastest for the dollar. I always go with the motto "speed Kills" Hevishot has been ultimately too expensive and 31/2 in steel works out to be cheaper and nearly as effective. Plus a helluva lot cheaper to practice with. Reloading hev is not that inexpensive either. Paul Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maggietheduckdog07 Posted September 24, 2004 Share Posted September 24, 2004 has anyone tried tungsten iron by federal? their not good for a long shot, but if you can get that mallard or goose close enough the tungsten wil do the rest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maggietheduckdog07 Posted September 27, 2004 Share Posted September 27, 2004 ive never had any problems carryin decoys before, just take em out the boat drag em through the water to your blind set em out cuz theres no point in walkin on the bank to your blind if it aint that far newayz cuz then youll have to get back in the water to flip the decoys over that land on their side(unless that only happens to me). and churning up the mud is good for your spread cuz it actually looks like ducks have been movin around and feeding. and it depends on how many decoys you bring Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maggietheduckdog07 Posted September 27, 2004 Share Posted September 27, 2004 and im say this cuz here in southwest louisiana we only hunt in marshlands with blinds accessable by mostly boat, or maybe an atv, but the point is we try to make it as easy as possible bto get there, so there wont be as much time spent on getting out there, and more time on getting the decoys ready, along with the guns so you can take a few early sunrise teal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sp0rt_Sh00ter Posted October 17, 2004 Share Posted October 17, 2004 now, i dont know much about decoys, but, shotshell, for ducks, i would us the rem hevi shot, it has alot more knock down power. in #4 and #6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
birddog Posted October 17, 2004 Share Posted October 17, 2004 Hi sp0rt_Sh00ter - Have you tried Envirometals Original Hevi-Shot loads? .....? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geeseM2 Posted October 17, 2004 Share Posted October 17, 2004 I use either Federal ultra-shock high velocity steel or ultra-shock heavy high velocity steel. i my self cant see paying around $2.00 a shot . I tried Kent FASTEEL AND IMPACT and thought that the kent steel was a good shell the impact is about the same price as the hevi-shot. I bought a case of the fasteel and NOW use both KENT and FEDERAL. As for the FUD'S I HAVE NEVER USED NOR KNOW ANYONE THAT HAS. [ 10-17-2004, 01:26 PM: Message edited by: geeseM2 ] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoTox Posted October 18, 2004 Author Share Posted October 18, 2004 I appreciate all of the response guys. I still have not decided if I am going to try the hevi-shot. I am afraid that I might like it too much! I was just worried about the Kent, because on another post, someone said the Fasteel jammed in their SBEII about a third of the time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geeseM2 Posted October 18, 2004 Share Posted October 18, 2004 No problem in my M2 with the kent,s only shoot 3" though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert II Posted October 18, 2004 Share Posted October 18, 2004 Hevi-shot is superior to all others in my opinion. Unlike steel, chose one or two sizes smaller than what you would with lead. Best, Robert Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
birddog Posted October 18, 2004 Share Posted October 18, 2004 * one other thing to note * 2-3/4" Hevi-Shot loads compared to 3" or 3-1/2" of other makes ... ... still no contest! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Va Shooter Posted October 23, 2004 Share Posted October 23, 2004 I can't comment on Hevi Shot because I've never used it. But, after the cripple problems last year my hunting partner and myself are thinking about using it. As for the FUDs, they're awesome providing you are not hunting in high winds. They do have a tendancy to lean when the winds pick up. On the flip side, a slight breeze really gets 'em moving. Try them, you won't be sorry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tj Posted October 24, 2004 Share Posted October 24, 2004 does anybody here shoot bismuth??? i have had rough start to my season and the ducks dont seem to work as close as last year. i reload bismuth #2 for geese and i'm considering a load of #4 for ducks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drundel Posted November 1, 2004 Share Posted November 1, 2004 3.5 faststeel are jamming. My buddy and I have shot LOTS of 3" through our SBE with no problems. As far as FUD, a buddy said they look great in a slight wind. If I had to walk a lot, I would buy some. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoTox Posted November 2, 2004 Author Share Posted November 2, 2004 I appreciate the response. Just waiting a few more days now... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bwnr Posted November 12, 2004 Share Posted November 12, 2004 No Tox, I can tell you that once you try hevi-shot, you will be asking for it at Christmas, birthday's, father's day.....good stuff!!! Yes, it is expensive if bought from Rem. or Environmetals, but in my opinion, worth it. Not to mention, ethically responsible in making clean, quick kills. A while ago, I got a little push from Birddog, on this site, to look into re-loading hevi-shot. I am certainly glad I took his advice. I am now shooting a 3" #2 Hevi-Shot 1 3/8" oz. load at 1525 fps as my standard goose load. Geese don't stand a chance. For price, you take it from Remington's $2/shell to $1/shell by reloading it. Compare that to $.60-$.70/shell for steel and it's not that much more. Birddog, thanks for advice. Have any use for some 3 1/2" steel shells? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoTox Posted November 12, 2004 Author Share Posted November 12, 2004 I appreciate the help. I have thought about getting in to reloading hevi-shot myself, but don't really know where to start. Birddog, if you are the one to talk to, I would love some help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Choclabman Posted November 13, 2004 Share Posted November 13, 2004 Problems with the Cheap kent shells are with 3" as well as 3.5's. Look at Winchester Supreme's in steel. I wouldnt waste money on Kents. [ 11-13-2004, 10:00 AM: Message edited by: BLKLABMAN ] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoTox Posted November 13, 2004 Author Share Posted November 13, 2004 what kind of problems?--I have gotten reviews good and bad. I just got a case in the mail. 3" #4 1 3/8 shot. Hopefully I don't have problems, but I haven't shot any yet. I guess I will find out Mon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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