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Looks like yet another rail that wasn't designed by someone who uses a firearm in the field. Terrible ergonomics compared to the polymer handguard. Added weight. No placements for lights that make sense. They'll sell a ton.2 points
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My Turkish clone .All Benelli expect receiver Benelli bolt,barrel,rear sight , c shock breacher choke A&s housing with np3 coated trigger Taran lifter Iwc mount with modlite Fft bolt release Taran stippled handguardd Comp carrier titanium tube Rx titanium charge handle Side armor saddle1 point
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Toros/Four Peaks Copolla T4 .Yes ever Benelli part mounted right up to it Plus I sold of my Turkish barrel and bolt and trigger for like $350 .So only into reciever for like $2501 point
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Thanks for posting. I have always thought that even just replacing the bolt and bolt carrier, shell catch, lifter, and trigger group would do wonders for a clone. And much cheaper than a Benelli M4. the c stock, so the tube you bought threaded right in to reciever no issues? What brand is your clone?1 point
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Replaced my turknelli bolt as well, as in I swapped the whole bolt carrier assembly for an oem benelli. Only issues I see now is that comparing the hammer spring from oem to turkey, the oem is much stronger so the hammer would cause a lot of light primer strikes. Going to swap the trigger assembly while I'm at it and that outta take care of that as well. Eventually this entire clone will become a benelli in the end, with the receiver being the only original turkey part lol.1 point
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1. IMHO, a follower is more or less a follower, and the least important upgrade for this gun. Far more experienced M4 owners than I on this forum use the stock follower with no complaints. 2. You are correct in that the stock spring is designed for 7 shells, but now Benelli itself apparently offers ... https://www.benelliparts.net/products/benelli-m4-7rd-magazine-spring-new-thick-gauge. (???) What the hell? If the stock spring is designed for 7 shells, then why offer an OEM upgrade? And the answer is, of course ... wait for it ... money. With other companies making money on upgraded springs, Benelli simply jumped in on the game. Who can blame them. Hell, their upgraded spring may very well be made by one of the other companies. Moves like this reminds me of Harley Davidson where for each and every stock part, they offer an upgraded, more expensive Screaming Eagle part. Very smart. I have spent a small fortune in my lifetime on upgraded, more expensive Screaming Eagle parts. What a sucker. LOL Anyway, I imagine the stock spring - the same one being used by militaries around the world with nary a malfunction - is just fine. That said, when I purchased DMW's beautifully made magazine tube extension kit, an upgraded spring came with it, and that upgraded spring is clearly beefier, longer, and more confidence-inspiring than the stock one, so that's the one I'm using.1 point
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Would you notice a difference? I doubt it. I use one of them that I got with the titanium tube I bought from them. I didn't notice any difference from the OEM spring. What really makes a tangible difference is polishing the inside of the mag tube with 0000 steel wool and a cordless drill.1 point
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If you do a lot of gun cleaning, I'd recommend getting an ultrasonic cleaner from Harbor Freight. I filled mine with Hoppes #9. That thing makes sort work of most carbon deposits. The solvent leaves a nice protective film behind. I don't use the heating element since it isn't needed. Running the ultrasonic for a few minutes agitates the bubbles to the point that the parts will be hot to the touch. I just leave the liquid in the ultrasonic tank with the lid on it. Having a dunk tank of sorts improves your efficiency in cleaning systems. Like when I tear down a Glock, I'll strip the slide and pull out the striker assembly, then dump the slide, main spring, barrel, extractor, plungers, back plate in. I have a small wire basket that I put the tiny parts in. I'll only do the striker if I feel necessary to disassemble the striker. Same applies for something like the Benelli. You wouldn't want to throw an assembled trigger pack into it, but the components, absolutely. Bolt carriers and ARGO system parts fit perfect. The Hoppes #9 leaves some sort of protective film behind. I then lubricate as needed. I think I'm on my fourth liter of Hoppes after 8 years of use. So the evaporational losses are minimal. I kind of abuse it too, like I clean nasty greasy tools from automotive type work. For an example, I inherited nearly a 1,000 sockets of various sizes from my dad last year, he didn't take very good care of his tools, so I put all of them thru the ultrasonic tank to clean them up. There is probably a layer of sludge on the bottom of the tank, but I don't see it or have any issues with it preventing the system from working or cleaning right. Having the tank with the cleaner open is great for dipping Q-tips into for cleaning larger parts that won't fit into the tank. For bore work, I do the bore snake and have a Tornado brush for removing lead. The ultrasonic tank is surprisingly cheap. I'm certain there are better models out there, but this is a solid entry level model. https://www.harborfreight.com/25-liter-ultrasonic-cleaner-63256.html1 point
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Thanks for the recommendations. Transferring a NFA item can be complicated. When asking the ATF, they recommend getting permission from the ATF for each leg of the transfer which takes a while. However, their wording is vague and it seems to just be a recommendation rather than a mandate. Your extension is definitely off. It wasn't intentionally set that way. Whoever did the installation permitted the extension to slip while torquing the jam nut and didn't notice or care to check their work. You'd think they'd have a jig set up to do this kind of work? I'd recommend tackling the job yourself if you're willing. If you need help guiding your way thru it, I'd be glad to give you my number for text or calls.1 point
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The traditional M4 weighs in at 7.8 pounds unloaded. This new model with its rail and different stock weigh in at 8.4 lbs. Considering most of the new stock is polymer, my guess is most of the gain lives in that rail. I'd assume this rail is either 6065 or 7075 aluminum. So its a bit of a chonker. Looking at the rail closer, I don't think those are MLOK/Keymod sockets. It appears to have threaded holes for attaching Picatinny rail sections. In two years, I'll be at 20 years on this platform. I've been riding the struggle bus chasing a proper rail system all that time for the sole purpose of mounting a weapon light in an efficient manner. Nothing beats the ergonomics of the OEM polymer handguards, extra points if they're stippled professionally. Every rail system out there for the Benelli M4 has been poorly designed. Poor installation systems that require the use of tools to service the firearm. Terrible ergonomics where you're holding onto a Pringles can. Stupidly positioned Picatinny/MLOK/Keymod rail positions that have little to no thought process on why they are there. Failure inducing designs where the rail makes contact with the gas pistons. All add substantial weight to the firearm. All rail systems abandon the enclosed ARGO piston design that keeps debris out and gases trapped inside. This is why the IWC weapon light mount is so popular for the M4. It gets you a serviceable light mounting solution without ruining the firearm with stupid crap. Unfortunately the mounting solution isn't perfect either on 18.5" M4's. Most of these rail systems require that you remove all of your accessories from the rail in order to slide the thing off of the barrel assembly. So after you've locked all your screws in with thread locker to keep them from being shaken loose, you get to do it over and over again for general maintenance of the ARGO system.1 point
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Have you tried direct from Wolff springs? That's where I get mine, I've ordered a few times from them. Not all shot shells are the same length, depending on what you're trying to load you may only get 6 in the magazine, that's not uncommon. Still, 6 in the mag, 1 in the chamber and 1 ghost loaded is pretty formidable.1 point
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IMO not in any way. Honestly I don't feel it's worth it for anyone, but that's just me, I know plenty with disagree till they're blue in the face. (I have factory polymer as well as factory and aftermarket metal ones) I put a "pretty blue one" on my race gun because it was pretty blue. I've found no other advantage to it. I had to shim/peen it to fit the receiver well and not rock/rattle around. It's no easier to load with it. MAYBE it's stronger if I use my shotgun as a club and hope the trigger still works? Maybe not though. I only have one spare plastic housing and no spare metal one's, so I can't do a side by side torture test. Waiting on the federal funding.1 point
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Have a few benelli already and wanted a project.To behonest was cheaper then buying a new m4 .And it’s all aftermarket.Then being a stock Benelli Bought must parts used.And bought a m4 parts kit for cheap1 point
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