SgtCathy

I own a 20 guage short stock Monty (Montefeltro)and they are definately a scaled down super 90. The forearm wood is actually thinner than on my Browning 20 guage, Over/Under, Special Field Citori. I'm not sure if the 20 guage Monty's come dressed in black as mine is wood. SgtCathy Cape Cod

Hi Noob, Don't have a Nova, but when I bought my little 20 guage Monty a few years ago, their was a small red tab attached to the chamber (about 1" x 1+1/2") just in front of the bolt face. It was for packing purposes to protect the bolt. SgtCathy Cape Cod

Hi Loco... That's a pretty cool looking Nova you have their. A little tricked out but not over dressed. Looking good SgtCathy Cape Cod

Oh, I almost forgot. Just for giggles, last summer at the range I loaded up my little short stock 20 guage Monty with 5 rounds of cheap promo shells and holding the Monty away from my body (not against my shoulder or against my side) was able to fire all 5 shells without any problems. I guess my little Monty is just as defective as my older M1 S90. I'm sure that the SBII shooting 3+1/2 inch shells will need a solid shoulder to function well and of course the bolt closed completely, but my two Benelli's work better than advertised and I couldn't be more pleased with them. SgtCathy Cape Cod

Don't have a SBII, but do have a H+K Defense model M1 S90. It's almost 22 years old and I clean it with Break Free. It has never failed to fire, eject or stove-pipe and can empty out 8 rounds of mixed shells (2+1/2 inch English rounds to 3" magnums) FROM THE HIP every time, as I have demonstrated countless times at the range. Clearly I have a defective Benelli and I'm demanding my money back !! Shotguns that work like mine are why people want Benelli's and why they have such good reputations. My other Benelli, a short stock 20 guage Monty that I'e owned for almost 6 years and brutilize in the filed, works just as well without and problems loading, firing or ejecting. And yes, the little Monty gets cleaned only at the beginning and end of the Quail season, unless I get caught in the rain. Am I sold on Benelli's? You bet! I also own a lot of Remington 1100's and 11-87's that need cleaning all the time and a beautiful, older Browning Special Upland Field model that has such tight tolerances that a daily cleaning is a must. I love my Remingtons and Brownings but if you should see me in the filed, it's my Benelli's that I will most likely be carrying.

Here in Massachusetts, I walk up Grouse, so they flush at my feet, always when you least expect it and in heavy cover. I use my short stock 20 guage Monty with 1 oz of 7+1/2 shot, Remington Express or Heavy Dove loads. Improved cylinder choke. Late in the season, I make my second follow-up shot 1 oz of number 6 shot and switch to a modified choke because the birds tend to flush early. I only carry 2 rounds in the Monty. Last year, the first Grouse I shot at was at at the far end of a large quail area in a stand of young trees. I was shooting the cheap 7+1/2 shot Wally-World promo rounds (Winchester) as I was looking for Quail. When I entered the stand of trees on the opposite side and tried to re-flush the Grouse, the Grouse flew straight across a fire road directly in front of me. It was the first time in my life I had the magical open air shot at a Grouse. That 7/8 oz load and my I.C. choke sent the Grouse to the ground in a cloud of feathers. Less than 5 minutes later as I was admiring my bird, another hunter showed up with a beautiful 28 guage double barrel shotgun and a small bird dog. He had been working the wood edge line one field over for Grouse when he heard my shot. He was carrying 7/8 oz of 7+1/2 shot and his double was bored I.C and Mod. (we compared shotguns). SgtCathy Cape Cod

This may not help your decision much, but in the vampire movie 30 Days Of Nights,the sheriff's deputy uses a Nova police model. Looks pretty snappy. SgtCathy Cape Cod

I have a Remington 11-87, special filed in 20 guage. Love the English stock. BUT, when I first purchased it, their were 2 major flaws in the magazine tube. The first was a number of burrs just inside the entrance and chewing up the plastic magazine plug. Sometimes you couldn't even load shells because the plug was stuck. Some careful filing with miniature files took care of that. The second problem was a very visible dent in the tube about 3 inches down. That was much more difficult to polish out with steel wool and a hugh speed drill. When I received this shotgun, my initial reaction was, "what happened to quality control". With the upland bird season just a couple of weeks away, I fixed the shotgun myself. It has worked perfectly ever since. I send Remington an unpleasent letter with my complaints and observations. Several months later I received a new orange magazine plug in a small envelope. No explanation or apology, just the plug. A few years ago, I purchase a short stock 20 guage Monty (AKA the Quail killer), and now the Remington comes out of the safe, maybe once a season. If Benelli comes out with a straight style English stock on their little Monty's, my Remington is doomed to the gun safe. SgtCathy Cape Cod

Hy There 10Gauge, Just last night I was looking in my newest Cabelas catalog. Saw the GAMO Hunter Extreme air rifle that shoots the PBA pellets at 1,600 fps. That's very impressive. Faster than many .22's. Back in the late seventies, when I lived in upstate New York, their were many grown over abandoned farms which were mine fields for chipmunks. I used to take a few boxes of .22 shorts and my little Browning pump Trombone (looks like a Winchester model 61) out for an afternoon walk. Granted it wasn't the same as an African Safari or a mountain Elk hunt but it sure was fun. One day, one of my neighbors talked me into taking her 12 year old son with me plinking. Whenever I see a show that talks about taking a youngster hunting, that day many years ago, comes to mind. Watching that boy shooting the little pump and getting his first chipmunk was special. I still have that little Trombone pump .22 but the only "big game" hunting I due now is with paper targets or wood chips on the 100 yard line. It's amazing how much shooting/plinking and hunting has changed in just the last 25 years. SgtCathy Cape Cod

I used to have permission to thin out muskrats, snapping turtles and an occasional woodchuck from a large cranberry bog farm in a town nearby. I stopped shooting woodchucks with a .22 years ago. After hitting them with .22 slug, they alway managed to run back to their dens. The muskrats would also dive back into the ditches unless you happened to get the perfect head shot. Muskrats learn fast and will dive into a ditch at the first sign of a firearm. No rifles are permitted in most of the counties on the east coast of Mass just rimfires. Snapping turtles on the other hand, you could get pretty close to by walking softly and watching for their large heads to appear in a bog ditch. One shot to the back of the head would finish them. Last summer I took my Rossi pump .17 HMR with me and managed to shoot two muskrats in one afternoon. Both died exactly where I shot them with a solid "wump". The .17 HMR gets my vote for varments larger than squirrels but smaller than a buffalo (just kidding about the buffalo). Person(s) unknown damaging the pump houses on the bogs last year, have placed the bogs off limits (as in no trespassing) so I won't be able to try out the .17 HMR on snappers or chucks... SgtCathy Cape Cod

I came across this company on the Internet the other day. They specialize in military slings. http://www.turnersling.com SgtCathy Cape Cod

Now we are talking fun. I have owned so many .22 rifles over the years that I'm not sure exactly how many. Lately all the companies claim great accuracy, but I'm having a problem finding a relatively inexspensive .22 that is really accurate. Currently I own a Remington model 514 single shot, manufactured around 1963, that needed some TLC but after it was cleaned up, prints out nice little groups at 50 feet. The big surprise was a rifle recommended by my local gun store. A Thompson-Center, .22 semi-auto, model R55 Classic with a 22 inch match grade tapered barrel. This is one accurate .22! After mounting a Simmons 3-9 power scope, I started getting a few quarter size groups at 50 yards. Talk about a serious squirrel .22. Without the scope on, just plinking at chips of wood at the 100 yard range back stop is soooo much fun. Bring extra ammo !! SgtCathy Cape Cod

Strange you should mention Brownings. My older Browning, 20 guage Special Field Citori with it's English style stock, hits right on for me, straight out of the box. When I purchased my 20 guage short stock Monty, just before bird season, I couldn't hit a clay pigeon no matter what. The next summer I played around with the shims at the range and now the little Monty (AKA Quail killer) is my main upland gun. Sure I still take the Browning or a Remington out in the mornings during bird season for an hour or so, but after I eat lunch and take a nap, I spend the rest of the afternoon with my Monty. Their's been more than a few afternoon walking pheasants and single Quail ot two that wished I had left my Monty home SgtCathy Cape Cod

I've noticed a lot of Mossberg combat pumps have those same muzzle attachments. Mossberg claims it's a door breaching devise and designed just to look "mean". I read some place on Remington's web page that it's helps control muzzle rise. The choke does look very meanish. I figure it's a srcambled egg device (hold muzzle straight up, place egg on muzzle, pull trigger), or a fancy back scratcher. SgtCathy Cape Cod

I read this thread wearing asbestos gloves and standing at strict solid attention. Now if somebody could just say "at ease soilder" so I could move on to another thread SgtCathy Cape Cod

Here in the fun state of Massachusetts, you can have a semi-automatic shotgun with pistol grip and holding more than 5 rounds IF you owned it before the ban and IF you can prove it with a sales receipt and Mass form FA 10 and IF your local police chief has blessed you with a class "A" large capacity firearms permit and AFTER you have taken all the gun courses, passed all the back ground checks, State Police investigation and finally, you live in a city or town that the chief even allows private citizens to have a firearm listed on the long, state issued no-no list. Unless of course you actually live within the city limits of Boston, in which case you can't own the above mentioned firearm under any conditions. SgtCathy Cape Cod

Glad things are working out with your Monty. I've had my short stock 20 guauge Monty for over 5 years. Right from the start I fed her the cheapest Wally World promotional rounds I could buy. At the time, I also had several boxes of English 2+1/2 inch stuff and some special SPREADER rounds. Never had one single burp of any kind. Later on I tried a handful of 3" and 2+3/4 inch magnums. Wow, talk about recoil. I won't due that again! During our local upland season, I oil my Monty very lightly at the beginning of the season and nothing again until winter closes me down (BreakFree if your wondering). If my Monty gets caught in the rain or muddy, I will let it warm to room temperature and then a quick wipe with an oil soaked cloth. When the quail are stepping out, I'll load up with just two rounds of 7/8 oz. #7+1/2 shot. The limit here is just 4 birds per day so you don't want to limit out to early. On occasion when I'm climbing through the brush after a single Bobwhite, I'll flush a Grouse and that's when the little short barreled Monty really shows her stuff. My little Monty has been a dream since the first day I bought it and I never needed any "break-in" period. Did have to change the shims for better shot placement. Keep that Monty smoking Sgtcathy Cape Cod

Way back in the late 60's, my very first shotgun that was all mine, was a Winchester 97 pump riot gun. Had to have my brother buy it since I was old enough yet. It was the only shotgun I had to hunt everything from Quail, pheasents to ducks. To make it legal (2 shells in the mag only) I cut down a 1/2" wooden dowel to the correct length and lacquered it twice and placed it into the magazine. The dowel stayed in for almost thirty years until I sold the shotgun to one of those Cowboy Action shooters. Bought my Defense M1 S90 back in 1986 and a year later bought a 28" hunting barrel for it. The barrel came with the limiter rod, 4 chokes and a regular stock. SgtCathy Cape Cod

I am practically dumb-struck with the picture of the pink AR-15. Where, and I do mean WHERE, can I get that done to my Defense M1 S90 ???? I will brush my teeth every night, do my laundry on time or whatever else it takes. Hey T-F, have you thought about turning your Yogi-Hammer Pink? How cool would that be? There isn't a brown bear or Griz that would dare approach your camp with that piece of weapontry displayed. SgtCathy Cape Pink

When it comes to large scale shooting events, I'm starting to feel like an ant in the world of dinasaurs. I really had no idea, WOW. Great answer !!! SgtCathy CapeCod

Wuss = guy Woos = girl I'm a poor speller. I'm told by a close friend, the proper word would be wussette. As for Boston... I don't have a passport/Visa to enter the city limits. You still working on your team leader/Griz M1014 special? Soon it will look to "perdie" to take outdors. I'm still leaning towards the little short stock 20 guage Monty for Caligvla. You can purchase a full size stock for yourself (LOP is about 14+1/4 inch I believe) and stoke it with 2+3/4 or 3" magnums for that full 12 gauge roaring and kicking feel. I like to use the cheapest Wally World I can buy. Mostly the 7/8 ounce, #7+1/2 shot in the value package. The quail don't seem to notice the difference. Have that funny feeling if she likes the little Monty, you might wind up buying another Benelli just for youself SgtCathy Cape Cod

This is my set-up. I have 2 large canisters of OC/CS spray in my bedstand. The first one just goes "Pppsssst" and nothing actually comes out (my dummy spray). If that doesn't work, the second can actually sprays OC/CS. Okay.....I made that up. I have one can of OC/CS and my back-up is a full size .45 automatic. Although I can understand the "good will" portion of using a blank round, my life time experience being am Army MP and Ferderal Law Enforcement Sergeant has been NO WARNING SHOTS! My few and limited brain cells are hardwired that way. If I honestly feel the need to place a firearm in my hand, then Playtime is over! And that's what I will be telling the judge and jury. Naturally, plan "C" involes some type of bayonet interaction and my Defense M1 S90. I've started using industrial rubber bands to hold the bayonet on. SgtCathy Cape Cod

Hi there 10Gauge. I'm proably stepping into a big pile of doo-doo by asking this, but "I got's to know". In your post you mentioned shooting your Beretta 390's over 2500 times in one weekend. If that was a 3-day weekend, and shooting 12 hours per day, that comes out to about 70 rounds per hour. Hour in, hour out. Certainly not impossible, but I'm way impressed. If it was a two day weekend, it comes out to 104 shots per hour. Come on, be honest, it's just little old me and you chatting; that was a typo right? You meant 250 rounds? No disrespect intended, just in total wonder Hey, I shot 5 rounds of skeet one Saturday, but had to limp home and my shoulder all but froze up the next few days. Okay...I'm a bit of a woos. SgtCathy Cape Cod

Cali....If you can get yours hands on a short stock 20 guage Monty, your friend may enjoy shooting shotguns. I always use the cheapest shells I can find in mine and stay away from 2+3/4 or 3" magnums. The correct LOP and easy shooting shells make all the differense. My little Monty came from the factory with a 12+1/2 " LOP and weighs just a tadd over 5 pounds. In my experience, when I have to stretch my arms and neck to accomidate a larger shotgun (of any make) I always feel the recoil. Otherwise, I might recommend something like a Remington 11-87 Special Filed 20 guage gas automatic. I had the LOP on my Remy shortened to 13". It's a little heavy at 6 pounds, but between the extra weight and gas operation it handles and feels very soft. I also feel more comforatble using an English style stock because of my small hands. If Benelli ever made an English style stock for their Monty's (hint, hint) I might just have to sell my other shotguns :-) Sgtcathy Cape Cod

Oh Ya...OH YA !!... Beat this.... I hold the all time record for an Army MP for firing consecutive single shots from a belt fed M60 machine gun. 8 shots !! Of course I'm not exactly sure why anybody would want to fire single rounds from a machine gun. What was the topic gain?? SgtCathy Cape Cod Owns: Single shot bolt action .22 No tattoos one round of .38 +P pure silver bullet (in case of Werewolfs) Zombie medical research tool (Defense M1 S90) Large pickle barrel selection devise (M1917 bayonet) # of Quail taken: hundreds !! US Marines teased: 37