Duggan

Thats hilarious.

I didn't know you had an AR tucker. That thing is begging to get a PRI carbon fiber tube and a sierra precision grip. Both should greatly enhance handling But you already know that, because you used to be an arfcommer.

I used "M4/M1014" in my title, and it finally went through without being killed by ebay.

I beleive Harlan's steel tubes now have a parkerized finish which is comparable to the factory finish. I could be wrong though.

The factory spring and follower work just fine with the +2 extension.

Watch out for the snakes. [ 09-08-2006, 03:13 AM: Message edited by: Duggan ]

Nice pair indeed.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jGWaSJctKCw That's a video of the surefire m3 I made for you. 225 lumen head, near fresh batteries ... My camera sucks at night ... it is not nearly sensitive enough to pick up long range light details like my eyes can. When I shine the light into the distance, it's at a pond 100 yards away. With my eyes, that makes it dimly lit ... it goes from pure black to a gray, overcast looking state, but bright enough where I can see what is going on pretty well. With the camera, you can't see much of anything ... but you still may find it useful. Overall, it is a good light out to about 100 yards, the turbo head a bit more ... anything beyond that and you need more lumens/a brighter hotspot. Moving on, You can buy either m3 reflector seperately. They only come with one. So buy whichever one you want more, and then buy the other head if you see fit. And as far as throw lever mounts go, larue tactical makes hands down the best throw lever aimpoint mounts in the industry. They absolutely BLOW the ARMS mounts out of the water. They cost a bit to get, but they are worth every penny, and then some. They have perfect return to zero time after time, they are built like tanks, they have adjustable locking levers ... they are top notch parts. It's what your benelli deserves. I can give you more pics/dealers if you need them. [ 09-08-2006, 03:00 AM: Message edited by: Duggan ]

Like I said in the other thread, you need to make a huge "THIS IS NOT A GUN" message at the top of your auction, and make it perfectly clear that it is for the "M4 SHOTGUN, NOT AN ASSAULT RIFLE!" Gaywads.

You mean "This Listing Is Unavailable" is where its at? Looks like someone forgot to put a huge "THIS IS NOT A GUN EBAY YOU IDIOTS DONT DELETE THIS AUCTION" message at the top of their auction page. I had to list my first tube 4 times before they let it stay up. Oh, and see Harlan for a top notch tube [ 09-08-2006, 02:23 AM: Message edited by: Duggan ]

It adds a fair amount of weight ... it depends on how far forward you mount the light. As far as mounts go, the larue tactical offset light mount, IMO, is the best on the market. If you don't want to spend that much money, lots of places sell inch rings. Ebay has tons of them. Surefire does make rings, but other companies make better stuff, for less money. Check out Rainier Arms selection ... http://www.rainierarms.com/?page=shop/browse&category=flashlights_flashlightmounts Hope this helped.

Looks cool.

Is the mesa rail as durable as the stock one? I've used a few rails before that chipped real easily ... like chunks of the rail stubs just got knocked off because the metal was not hard enough. I hope this is not the case. And I've decided I'm definitely in for one if the group buy happens. I've come this far, no reason to stop now.

Jakjakman and I both have surefire m3s. His is mounted on his m4, I carry mine around in my pocket to beat people with. The beam lights up my pond at 100 yards pretty well ... the battery on my good camera is dead, or else I would get a beamshot for you. Maybe tomorrow night. To mount it, you need any laser/scope/flashlight with 1 inch rings. This can be anything from a 5 dollar ebay special to a 90 dollar larue tactical offset mount. That switch will work perfectly ... it allows you to use it as a push button light, and also as a tape switch. If you want to spend less money, you can get just a tapeswitch for around $20. As far as the rail goes, the only option really right now is the sidearmor rail. It clamps on between the barrel and the mag and lets you mount stuff on both sides. The light itself is pretty solid ... I have a lot of faith in its ruggedness. Why do you want a light that shines 100 yards? The chances of you shooting 100 yards with your shotgun at night are very slim ... or are you just wondering how bright it is? If so, it will blind you at night for a good 10 seconds if you get a direct hit on someones night adjusted eyes. 225 lumens does the trick. If you really want a 100 yard light, go for the m3 turbo light. That larger reflector narrows down the beam, and has more surface area.

Cool. I'll try one if I ever see one.

I've never used a sidesaddle before ... your thumb doesnt hit the rounds when you grip the grip? And it seems like it would throw off the weight something terrible. With that said, I will probably buy one, because I am out of control.

link to his sell thread?

I've never even seen an m4 standard stock. Why would you want one, if you don't mind me asking? Does the pistol grip detract from some type of shooting?

I've seen some go on gunbroker for near 1000.

Ahh. Well it's 40inchesx8inches with no optics mounted.

You will love your storm case. They are on par or better than pelican.

Sounds like a problem with the gas system. Check both your pistons. See if they are on tight, or are broken, or look disfigured. You've used these rounds before? There was no friction between the rounds and the inside of the barrel? Like they were getting stuck? Also make sure the spring on the inside of the receiver behind the bolt release button is still in place. When I changed to my GGG bolt release, I didnt seat the spring properly, and this exact thing happened. Hope you figure it out. Sucks to hear about this.

Just under 40 inches. You don't have a tape measure?

Both of my AR triggers are solid as a rock compared to the play on my m4 trigger. I have a JP single stage trigger set as low as I safely could and a knights armament (I think) 2 stage. I'm still looking into other sources ... but thanks for the info thus far. I'll post more when I have time. Glad you like the larue+eotech.