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Like I said... it popped into my head. One of those uncontrollable images that makes you laugh outloud. 80"? Naaaa... only maybe 75".
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I have it listed here... among other locations. It's a left bolt/right port Stolle Panda action. It would have been gone a long time ago had it been biased for a right handed shooter. C
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I gotta tell ya, when I first saw this thread, I'd forgotten that I'd looked at the Xrail system... and the first thing that popped into my head was a straight, 25 round magazine tube. Really.
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I've looked into that system a bit, a few months ago. It's not cheap... well in excess of $600. C
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I'd love to have a Benelli .22 cal match pistol. In fact, I've done quite a bit of research on match .22s and the Benelli models are right at the top of my list. Now... if you can find someone to buy my 6PPC benchrest rifle and accessories, I'd be happy to order up a Benelli pistol. Until then, the rifle sits in the safe, and the Benelli is on my list of "guns I want". Back to my M2... what a great shotgun eh? Cheers, C
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That's what I've heard from a boatload of people... F2s rock. My idea was that they'd be similar to the old Federal "Personal Defense" shell that was loaded with #2 birdshot at about 1100fps. The B&P may have a bit better penetration if the listed velocity of 1280fps is as advertised. I don't know... the pricing and free shipping might change your mind. C
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Anyone had a opportunity to use the Baschieri & Pellagri (B&P) brand of shells? I was researching their (relatively) new website, in particular looking for defense/LE rounds, and apparently what they "list" as D/LE ammo is not available. Poking around a bit more, I come across the "baby magnum" shells. They have a Italian "0" shot size... 154" diameter, that looks like it might have some promise as a defensive loading. As a point of interest, I see that Remington is using Baschieri & Pellagri to manufacture their European "Premier" target shells. Anyway, considering the price and free shipping, I ordered up a case to give 'em a try. Cheers, C
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"Relatively inexpensive" for a nice pair of limited edition guns. Relative to say.... this, or this. (I gotta admit though, I really like that A5 ) C
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No pics... just a small revelation is all. I was in "the stock one isn't bad" group, and I got the handle on a whim when I ordered the other stuff. I was just kinda surprised how much better it felt when I was racking the bolt. Cycling the bolt felt lighter and more, ah... crisp. It sounds pretty stupid to go on and on about this... it's just a $25 charging handle, but it's one of those small upgrades that has a very satisfying feel to it. C
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So I got a few goodies from Nordic for the 'ol M2. 8 shot mag extension, clamp, teflon follower... and charging handle. All first class, top quality stuff of course... love the removable end cap on the tube. What surprised me more than anything... and this is going to sound stupid, is the charging handle. It's so much more "ergonomic" than the, now determined to be lame crap - stock handle, that its laughable. Why it takes me so long to step up to certain things is a mystery. Just wanted to share my "discovery". Ciao, C
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We is havin' fun now... we is.
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Along the lines I was thinking as well. Quite often, the best test of a gun is to put in the hands of thousands of owners. If the Vinci survives lowest common denominator abuse and neglect for a few years, then I can see Benelli doing a Vinci T. All IMO of course. C (But... I seriously doubt you'll see me trading in my M2T for a Vinci T)
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The light and sling are well sorted. The value of the mag extension vs. the MT carrier, both of which I have, is at question. Again... for my needs, not the needs necessarily of others. I assume this is a somewhat tongue-in-cheek comment. I can't imagine anyone who's actually carried a firearm would choose to state such a bigoted generality with a straight face. I take that back... I actually do know a couple fellas that would say that. Luckily for them, they have other values that make them socially redeemable. I have physical limitations. Those limitations being the result of a time and place when I did carry a 10lb. plus rifle... the weight of which was the least of my concerns. My M2, loaded and fit with accessories, which includes the afore mentioned MT 1913 rail/6 shell carrier, weighs 9.9 lbs. This weight is with the stock tube extension. As I said earlier, I carry my shotgun frequently, sometimes for hours while wandering the woods. I prefer not to carry any more weight than I have to. When I get my replacement tube from Nordic (the previous one was damaged in a fall) I'll weigh the two methods of shell carry, balance that against the round count desire, and decide which will serve me better. C
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In complete agreement with your comments. I am currently "playing" with the appropriate combinations of accessories to find a happy medium. A sling and light are somewhat mandatory for my needs, as I live in the woods and tend to wander about. I'm still undecided on a Nordic extended mag tube or a MT 1913 rail/6 shell carrier as a method of additional ammo carry. I don't want or feel the need for both... and both combined may cause cycling issues. Thru experimentation... and contemplation of my "true needs", I will decide on which is the better method. The Wolff spring would be a sound purchase... should I get a case of "Zombieitis" and rationalize the need for 14 plus shells on the gun. (What... it could happen. )
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Discretion is the better part of valor... so says the man who has survived a lack of discretion in the pursuit of valor.
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Ah well... there are practical limits to everything. I don't shoot guns that I know will do damage to me... much like I don't walk into walls or fall down stairs on purpose either.
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I'll be the decenter and devils advocate in this group. I'm old, I can take the abuse. Being able to own a firearm that is in current use by the (a) military has a certain cachette... that can sometimes be hard to define, rationalize or justify. I can't totally exclude myself from this fascination either, as I've been in the deep end of that pool, once possessing FN FALs, H&K G3s, SIG AMTs, a whole slew of US arms... and other sundry mil-spec weaponry. I find that the M2 does everything I need a shotgun to do. Is it better or worse than an M4 at flinging quantities of buckshot down the lane? No... only different in the sense that they are designed for, and have different (intended) missions in life. Pick your mission, pick your gun. I went with the M2 for a few reasons. I have (developed) an aversion to gas system weapons. Might be silly, but no more silly than any other illogical rationalization. I liked the lightness and maneuverability of the M2... I have carpal tunnel and tendinitis, so this is an important feature to me. On the other hand, I'm a fairly recoil-proof person, so that feature of the softer shooting M4 carries no weight. Caveat Emptor... C
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I'd imagine much of what you read was prior to 2009. I also suspect the many of the failures were due to over-tightening the rail screws and/or not using Loctite. They admittedly did have some issues with the screws/countersinks they used at the time... which certainly contributed to problems, but since they've switched to Benelli type screws, cool conical washers and matching countersinks, I imagine you'll be seeing far fewer complaints. A 1/4" drive in.lb. torque wrench is always a good invesment when you like to tinker with guns. C
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The latest (revised screws and countersinks in the 1913 rail... as of around February of this year) version fits just fine. I have the 6 shell model on my M2... no problems in around 2500 rds. Contact Mitch at MT for all the revision info. C
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***FOR SALE-Insight M3X light and/or Insight SG Adapter***
Creeper replied to shotgunNoob's topic in Benelli
No takers yet? If them what are looking are on the fence, perhaps not familiar with the M3X... I've got this exact set-up on my M2 and it works a treat... nice and bright, good focus, perfect POA alignment and a rock solid mounting set-up. C -
New M2Ts come with 3 crio chokes... full, modified, improved cylinder, and a wrench. There are notches in the front end of the choke tube for "braille" identification. I Full III Modified IIII Improved Cylinder http://www.benelliusa.com/parts_and_accessories/choke_tubes.php C
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Did you give them fair warning? "Drop that Twinkie and put your paws/wings up!!!... or I'll shoot!!!" That kinda thing? If so, then your M1 ~ 4 was put to practical tactical use. I always give fair warning to the coyotes in my neighborhood... they don't speak English, but it's not my problem if they don't bother to learn the language.
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The current production MT carriers (as of around late February) use screws that are dimensional reproductions of the original Benelli screws. The kit comes with screws, or, if you have an M4, you can use your original screws. Contact MT for specific information. C
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Pick up your monitor and turn it counterclockwise 90 degrees. That's a very good idea ERdept... and looks good too. I may have to look a little more closely at that trick. Good on 'ya. C
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I had a feeling you were talking about a M2 field. Getting a 6th shell into a stock M2 tactical is a non-starter.
