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I'd guess the same amount. I wouldn't worry about it. You'll have more visible significant wear around the ejection port in no time if you actually plan to shoot this weapon. The M4 looks better when worn through use, not neglect.

Both appear to. It comes down to which style you prefer. If I was buying again, I would get this model since the serrations are less aggressive around the edges. Be advised, these addons will mar the finish on your weapon. The pad will rub against the receiver. The rub will be under the pad. So if you decide to remove this item later, it will have some finish wear present. The bolt release is significantly easier to hit with the enlarged pad. In respect to training, I advise you try not to run the weapon out of shells. If you're not firing, you should be topping off whenever possible.

Taking 5 ounces off the end of your weapon is the best choice. Considering you're adding two additional rounds. So that is about 4 ounces you're putting back on. So with a typical steel tube, you're actually adding weight to the weapon in the form of round capacity. Those titanium tubes are tough bastards. You're not giving up strength by going with it over steel. I've found the steel tubes are more likely to dent.

Be sure to pay attention to where the spring is under the bolt release before you remove the factory one. The spring doesn't really have a spot it rests in that is obvious. Matter of fact, my two M4's have been in a different location from the factory. It looks to be a factory release that they drilled and tapped for the screw that retains the pad. Same design as the GG&G. Much less aggressive though. Saves them soft Texas fingers from harm.

No difference really. This one looks to be easier on the hands. I've taken some skin off on the gg&g model due the aggressive serrated edges.

Is the pad plastic or metal?

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Treat it as badly as your wife or girlfriend claims you treat her.

That was related to the 4 port barrels that originally came in the 11703 model. Benelli has replaced those barrels when requested. All current production models are 2 port barrels. The easiest way is to be sure the weapon you're purchasing is a 11707 or an 11717 (tan).

The greenish tint depends on the aluminum surface of the weapon. If I was going to refinish my M4, I would look for a functional finish. Such as, sending it to Robar and having them coat the internals in NP3 Plus, and the externals in Rogard black. I believe you would end up with a smoother cycling weapon that is less prone to failure due to dirt/debris/lack of cleaning. Cleaning would also be significantly easier.

You just thought it was a cross hair didn't you? That's a crucifix right in the center. Better tell Obama to buy all new donuts of death or chevrons instead. I asked to see their Jesus rifles at shot. Many grins all around.

Not being a fan of EOTech, I just glanced at their offerings. I'm not up on all the models, so I couldn't tell what was new and old, sorry. Handling of the Trijicon Tripower was interesting. I liked it better than I was expecting. It was quite bright and matched well with a 3x magnifier from Aimpoint. The Tripower is a lot bigger than it looks in pictures. I think my rifles next addition will be the LaRue mounted Aimpoint magnifier. The ACR could only wish for such a quality detent action on their stock as his is for the engagement of the pivot mount. Mesa indicated that the stocks should be ready to ship by March/April. My guess is the XDm 45 will be much later in the year. They didn't even have a stat on how many rounds it would hold. I asked where the FDE XDm's were, and they said FDE was not a very popular color. I always considered it more popular than OD green. I'm not a huge fanboy of LaRues, but I do like his workmanship. If I had picked between the LMT MRP and the LaRue OBR, I would have instinctively went with the LMT. The OBR comes with the Geiselle SSA trigger as a standard option. It has rained the entire week of the show off and on. I walked from my hotel at Circus Circus to the convention center. All the porno magazines that normally blow down the strip are soggy and pasted to the sidewalk. The strip is pretty dirty honestly. As iconic as it is, I would have expected Oscar Goodman to keep it cleaned up. The new billboard trucks are really annoying. They clog the street at rush hour for visibility. Every casino has dozens of people lurking around trying to swindle you into going to shows or making arrangements with them. I thought for a second I was at a carnival and the carnies were trying to hook me. I'm in Vegas almost every week for work related issues. Rarely do I go to the strip though. The scene has changed significantly. It seems a lot of the carnies types are from Eastern Europe or Russia.

You can take photos if the dealer doesn't mind. The M4's were hidden in different locations. Benelli Italy had the standard stock and the full length steel tube. Benelli USA had the pistol grip stock limited tube we're used to seeing. Beretta USA had a collapsible stock model. Mesa had his older 11703 4 port model with a collapsible stock. The urbino was on an M2. Mesa's collapsible stock hasn't been produced yet. These aren't my photos, but Mesa's. The wood grain texture is an artifact and will not be on the production model. The cheek piece is optional.

Finished up my first day here. 7 hours vanished quite quickly. I think I logged at least 15 miles of walking. Anyway, the Urbino shorty stock is a win. The LOP feels really good. The riser is a nice addition when using an optic. I had no issues with the QD sling mount hitting me in the face. I went to both Benelli Italy and USA. I showed them some photos from the forum where the factory rail was tearing up the LaRue optic mounts. They seemed shocked but didn't try to blame LaRue as I had expected. All I got for it was an Atlas shrug. Benelli Italy had a standard stock M4 with a full length factory magazine tube on it for display. I didn't care much for the controls on the Benelli MR1. In the assault rifle venue, people are going to be pissed. Bushmaster set the MSRP for the ACR at 2700 dollars for the stripped model. When I asked them what happened to the 1500 dollars that was floated for three years now, they said Magpul didn't know what they were doing. The display models showed some development pains. The selector was crappy and the adjustment for the cheek riser was very bad. Barely worth the 1500 price. They're smoking crack if they want 3000 bucks. Ergonomics on it felt good, but as it stood, many aspects were better on the FN SCARS. I laugh, because originally, Magpul held the rifle up to be, "The peoples rifle." Troy Industries has come out with a crap load of new products for the AR series of weapons. They're trying to reinvent the wheel and selling ambidextrous controls and even plastic magazines. Their magazines have a lot more inherent texture to them compared to Pmags. I'm not sold yet though. One thing I really liked was they're offering an upgrade program to their flip up rear sights. They've redesigned the rear sights aperture to a diamond design. They're also offering the option to add tritium to it. I tried to disassemble mine a few months ago and it was a NOGO. Also, across the board they are reducing prices. Glock's Generation 4 grips are really nice. The aggressive texture is excellent. The removable back straps really slim down the frame significantly. Springfield Armory is releasing an XDm in 45acp this year. No detail on it though. Robar upgraded it's NP3 process. It has significantly better corrosion resistance properties and keeps its self lubricating properties intact. I'm considering sending my piston driven MRP to them. The had several AR parts coated. They look quite easy to clean, and the finish is self lubricating. Matching these qualities with the clean running action of the piston driven MRP would be a huge win. I went and compared the 7.62 offerings from LMT and LaRue. I liked the LaRue much better. It felt lighter and the action felt much better. The LaRue rifle was fully loaded with accessories too. The LMT was stripped bare other than an Aimpoint T1 on a Daniel Defense mount. Aimpoint doesn't have anything new of interest coming out. Overall, it was fun. I haven't decided if I am going to go back tomorrow or not.

I asked around at SHOT. No one had heard of anything like this.

Nope. They don't check. Everyone tends to have one. The discounts aren't ground breaking. Some items don't have any discount at all. I originally set mine to Government and I didn't get a discount. I was expecting GSA special pricing to pop up where everything costs an extra 40% over MSRP! Flipping it to Law Enforcement fixed it.

Covers are rather pointless. Just use the supplied bikini cover. Last week I got rained and hailed on while out in the field for about two miles of rugged terrain. I was carrying my AR15 M4 with the optic fully exposed. I checked it a few times to see how it worked in such conditions, other than water spots and droplets, it was easy to see through. Dust on the optic is more annoying than a hindrance.

I can't imagine them pissing away the LAPD Benelli M4 contract. If so, I'd be really impressed. I'll ask around later today at their booth. Maybe bust their balls a bit about the top rail.

The covers are from Ergo Grip. I've seen the LaRue model also. The problem with those, is they would completely obstruct the iron sights. The Ergo Grips lay flush with the top rail. http://www.ergogrips.net/item-detail.cfm?ID=4380&storeid=1&image=loproloom.gif&CFID=40680613&CFTOKEN=10070615

Change your account information to say that you are in law enforcement. All items will then show their discounted.

If you have a Brownells account setup with the discount, it's about 90 bucks for the GG&G.

I don't think the Ashley Big dot fits on the Benelli. The Benelli's front sight is significantly different than the Ar15 series front sight.

How do you intend to cut the extrusion?

I use the bolt handle to get mine started. I use it to remove the ARGO plugs too. The firing pin is tough. As long as you're not prying with it or driving it with a three pound sledge, it would be fine to use. If it breaks, I'm sure Benelli will replace it in 6 to 8 weeks.