twowheelhooligan

it gets cold in TN?? "Tennessee, patron state of shooting stuff!" - Shooter God, that's a funny movie line!

I am looking very intently at this thread as I am wanting to install sling as well. Likely the Vickers-type 2-pt(yeah, original I know! ) Looking at the Benelli CS I have some questions: 1) the round hole at the end of the stock, does it allow for a quick disconnect to fasten to/in the hole? Or is the stock not made of sturdy enough material? 2) The slota the the top-rear of the stock, why not use it for a fixed sling mount? Many AR15 rear sling mounts(for 2-3pt slings) use the rear of the CS for the rear attachment point. If neither of the above options are viable, than the Mesa disconnect seems to be the best option for my use. thanks in advance for any replies! 2-wheel

Kip, Your demeanor(well, at least the way you compose your written thoughts), your business savvy, your products and company are all absolutely, 110% TOP NOTCH!! You are an enterprising American, productively practicing your 2nd Amendment rights and helping your fellow Americans do the same! Your products are second to NONE in my opinion. One gets a "vibe" of some people on these forums. Some are boisterous a-holes, some babbling idiots, others just crank up their post counts. Your words of wisdom and your insight are always objective and from the heart. I truly believe that The USMC was lucky to have you in their service as are we for your ingenuity and wisdom! Keep up the good work!! THANK YOU!! 2-wheel

*THAT* is some funny stuff my friend!!!!!

What do you mean by "target shooting?" If by target shooting you mean SIGHTING IN, then you need to experiment with what works for YOU and YOUR M4. Trial and error, experiment, look for all different kinds of shotshells. Both Buckshot and Slugs! In my experience the 2.75" buckshot has patterned *MUCH* better than 3" Now, I think that you're wasting money (a LOT of money) by target shooting with buck and slugs all the time. For my shooting, I always use birdshot. Promo loads that I can find the cheapest that I know cycle my M4. I figure most of my drills are for weapon handling. Put in 2-5 live shells with 1-2 dummy rounds, fill up my side saddle. That way you practice malfunction reactions, reload drills, multi-shot strings. My 10 year-old can shoot the nine shots in the tube just as easily as anyone else. BUT, how many people can shoot, clear malfunction, empty, combat reload etc, without losing their cool, being smooth and fast? Just my $.02. So, for T&E, shoot what you can find, keep a log for buck & slug. Just putting rounds down the launch tube to enjoy the greatest shotgun on earth, save your $$ use promo(inexpensive) shotshells. Blowing up water bottles and fruit, I recommend the slugs tho! God that is just too funny!

I own a Supersport(factory ported) and a Browning O/U (factory ported). To reduce recoil you either A) add weight to the firearm B) Shoot a lighter load in shell C) Change caliber/gauge. I find the porting to actually be a pain for cleaning! It's cool at low-light to see the fire breathing dragon, but I find no benefit from the porting. As mentioned above, *MAYBE* for follow-up shots in skeet, doubles trap, etc. If I could've gotten my O/U UN-ported, I would've, but it wasn't an option. Pay extra for it? NO. take it if it comes on the gun I like and fits? Okay I suppose. Only real downside is cleaning and side blast/concussion to those near you. Best of luck! 2-wheel!

It may be cold up here in Wi, but mine's still longer. . . . Than KB's @ 30". hehe! (sorry, just had to!) But I do echo KB's review. I've had mine since June this year, about 1500 rds downrange. I hem-n-haw over putting a 6oz weighted endcap. I also shoot a Browning 625 O/U, so to replicate the mass. I mainly shoot skeet with mine, occasional trap. LOVE the gun, anyone else that tries and handles it is also impressed. Maintenance is super easy, straightforward. GET IT! 2-wheel

Hi all, Sorry if I missed the point here, but my M4(made in '09) is able to float one on carrier, and I have NOT modified it for the purpose of floating. What I do is load up 7 in the tube(thanks Kip!) pull back charging handle about 80% of way back, slip one in chamber, then insert the "floater" primer end first onto the carrier, push on front of shell to level it and allow bolt to close on chamber. **DO THIS WITH THE SAFETY ON!!!!!*** presto, I have a floated round and 9 shells of 12ga fun ready to go! I have *NOT* tried this with my Supersport though. I'll try that tonight. I usually only load up two at most for skeet shooting! Sorry if i missed the point. Just trying to help out with those that want to float. 2-wheel.

Everyone above has responded wisely and with some passion. Fit, gauge, barrel length. Keep a semi lubed and maintained, it'll function fantastic if you use heavy enough load to cycle the action. Whatever you get, train TRAIN TRAIN!!!! Know your weapon inside-out, function, mal-function(however rare they are) and practice! Have any activity become second nature. Shotty goes "click" instead of "bang" don't sit there and stare at it, FIX IT!!!!!!!! That should come as natural to you as breathing if you train. Best of luck. Get a Semi! 2-wheel

Handguns are holstered muzzle down. They don't care! A shotgun is polymer and steel. Polymer and steel, whether collective or separate don't care. If you care enough to ask the question, you'll care enough for maintenance to your gun to inspect it frequently. In which case, it (your Ben M4) won't care how it's stored. Just my $.0005 worth. Happy shooting! 2-wheel

Sooo, if you happen to fire a member of of the Fab 4, would you change the name of the gang? Or, the more likely event if you ADD a member, will you change it? Those band members could very well get confused!! hehehe! Nice collection though!

That was some funny stuph!!!

DAMMMMMM, I knew I was close! My next guess was going to be Kanye's pimped out M4.

Millionaire model?

The short answer is, try your concept above. The worst you do is "waste" a shotshell, and see the results yourself. Who knows, it *MAY* work for you! Look at a stick, pen or even your shotty(unloaded of course!) from the side. Create a line, run a string of yarn for your eye sight. Play with the physics of what is happening. Some of this depends on how YOU want the gun to be "sighted." The alleged pro trapshooters like the bead to be such that about 100% of the shot pattern is above the bead so the clay appears to hover over the front sight. Some like it 70/30(above/below) the bead, and there are other ratios out there as well. Some of the fancy-schmanzy shotguns out there have sight ribs that are adjustable to tailor it to the shooter's like. Patterning a shotgun, wheter it be a defense, hunting or sporting is probably the single worst oversight of any shotgunner. If YOU the shooter do not know where it shoots, how are you going to hit your target consistently and beyond the scope of luck? Would you take a hunting rifle out that had the scope mounted, nor boresight and not tuned into your ideal cartridge at the zero distance you prefer? Heck, I'd even say boresighted but not zeroed would you? I'm hoping the answer is "NO", and shotgunning is no different quite honestly. In short, mid-bead, do with it as you will. Some remove it, some ignore it, some use it to be sure they're not twisted/canted, some use it so they know how far "below" the front sight it is aligned in their sight-picture to take a shot(the snowman reference above by CWP) Only you can develop the sight-picture that works for your shooting style and how the shotty fits your physical structure. Happy Shooting! 2-wheel

You are on the right track with shot-patterning. My SuperSport, @ 30yds patterns about 55/45. 55% shot above the POA, remainder below. So, when I shoot Trap and Skeet, I place my bead touching the lowest edge of the bird. Obviously the need for lead is there, but assuming a stationary target. As for the alignment of front/rear bead, it depends on how you want your gun to shoot. If you want to change the sight picture, you can change out the riser pad(assuming you have a Comfort-Tech stock.) My alignment, that works for the shot-pattern as I describe above is beads essentially aligned, and front bead just kissing the lower edge of bird. what helped me tremendously was installing one of the Champion green-colored fiber-optic sights for front. The bright green helps me see the front sight so my eyes can more easily follow the target(clay.) So, go pattern, go practice and you should be good. Adjust your stock also as necessary so when you raise your shotgun, it has a more natural point-of-aim for you. Good Luck! 2-wheel

Here's my take on oil on/in a gun to anyone that has a basic concept of how a internal combustion engine works. A car/truck/motorbike engine runs at incredible speeds, creating an incredible amount of heat over a long duration of time.(let us say we're taking a roadtrip to Alaska from Miami FL) The amount of oil between the piston rings and the cylinder wall is thin, very VERY thin. This thin coat of oil(with regular oil changes) seems to last 100,000+ miles, heck even 200,000 miles for the engine of a vehicle. So, as Tucker stated, apply oil then wipe should be MORE than enough oil for your firearm during a day of hunting. If it's not, then it's a crap gun in my opinion(and *NO*, the Monty isn't a crap gun! Actually, could be one of the best Benelli buys out there!) I hope this helps put your mind at ease. Happy Hunting! 2-wheel

Try this link: http://www.benelliusa.com/forum/showthread.php?t=21737

Went to Gander Mtn, paid them $20 to do it. I made sure they had another M4 instock before. If they screw it up, not my $1500 mistake! I know it's *MECHANICALLY* easy, but even the smithy was sweating to get my tube off. Call me a cop-out, that's fine. IT was peace-of-mind for me!

Emotional, To keep low $$ but be effective, I would suggest the following. NOW. . .I have not run this on my M4. BUT. . I’m trying to give you ideas answering your question within the parameters you listed. I personally am waiting for my Surefire rail to come in and then I'm mounting a Surefire M600 scout light. BUT... here goes for you. 1) RAIL - one of the rails that attaches to your magazine tube and/or barrel. $30-50-ish. 2.1) LIGHT- Streamlight TLR1, can be had for $90-ish, mounts directly to rail(above.) 2.2) LIGHT - You could run a Surefire G2 Nitrolon that can be had for $35. 3.1) LIGHT CLAMP - VLTOR makes a nice clamp, I have one of these on my patrol rifle. The clamps are diameter specific, so whichever flashlight you choose, measure the outer diameter. The clamp mounts on to most any Pic rail. 3.2) No light clamp if using light option 2.1 So I tried to be cost-effective with the options I listed to you. There are certainly many others, but just wanted to give you a ballpark estimate. As for not requiring tools, I think you’ll be challenged to find a Pic-rail that attaches without at least a flat-head screw. I TOTALLY understand how you’d want that feature, and that was a large contributing factor to be going with the Surefire rail. Hope this helps! 2-wheel

THAT is funny! +1

I bet M1014 has #1 of that series?

The mount may allow co-witness, but the RMR itself will get in the way. I just had to look at A.D. since I wanted a quick mount. I like that they're a local company as well. I never thought, in a million years I'd EVER run an optic on a shotty. I'm just having so damn much fun accesorizing my M4, it's gotten to be an ailment! NEXT - the M14 underbarrel attachment! Wouldn't that be a stitch!

Link to my photos: http://www.benelliusa.com/forum/showthread.php?t=23546

I've run slugs through my M4 with the factory supplied choke, which is the Modified. NO PROBLEMS! No signs of stress, stretching, cracks, or otherwise. I now have the Carlson's breacher choke installed and have fired slugs too. No problems! I can't imagine Benelli having provided a choke for a tactical shotty, not allowing slugs. But then again. . . maybe I should look at the manual for more details!