M4-Desert Camo Posted January 21, 2013 Share Posted January 21, 2013 In a lot of the pics people post it appears many replace the factory charging handle .... are most of you going with 3/4" or 1/2" diameter handles? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benelliwerkes Posted January 21, 2013 Share Posted January 21, 2013 Lot's of choices....large / small, steel / titanium, color, spin / no-spin, weight Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M4-Desert Camo Posted January 21, 2013 Author Share Posted January 21, 2013 Thanks, I realize there are lots of choices .... was just wondering what others thought was best. I think I am leaning towards the 1/2" from FFT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paladinjme Posted January 21, 2013 Share Posted January 21, 2013 As far as steel handles go, I can recommend the FFT 1/2"..well machined, good fit and finish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XTrooper Posted January 21, 2013 Share Posted January 21, 2013 A word of warning. If you buy one with a diameter larger than 1/2", it's almost guaranteed to whack your thumb when the bolt slams home while combat reloading. The smaller ones usually provide enough clearance for this not to be a problem. FWIW, I'm using the FFT 1/2" steel model. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M4-Desert Camo Posted January 21, 2013 Author Share Posted January 21, 2013 Thanks guys .... 1/2" steel from FFT it is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rock7 Posted January 22, 2013 Share Posted January 22, 2013 I went with the 1/2" Ti from FFT. Perfect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest jsn124 Posted January 22, 2013 Share Posted January 22, 2013 I'm also a happy FFT 1/2" steel owner. But curious of others experience though... With minimal use (maybe taken in and out a dozen times for cleaning / inspection) the end that goes into the bolt group hole and engages inside has already shown signs of wear. Its as if the material is scraping off a bit as if the steel is "soft". Is this normal? My only concern is with continued wear the handle might "pop out" accidentally. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quickbiscuit Posted January 22, 2013 Share Posted January 22, 2013 Those are awesome pics. Thanks werkes. Can someone elaborate on steel vs titanium? With titanium being lighter, will it cycle light loads better than a steel handle? Or if someone is going 1/2" anyway does it really matter? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangerDanger Posted January 22, 2013 Share Posted January 22, 2013 (edited) jsn124, The issue you've described is exactly why carriercomp revised their Titanium bolt handle to have a steel shank. Here is a photograph I took of a solid titanium Design Concept's bolt handle vs. a generation II carriercomp bolt handle. Note the wear of the tang where the detent engages inside the bolt carrier. The Design Concept's bolt handle still functions just fine. However, it is a wear item that will continue to deteriorate over time. There was always a concern using the solid titanium bolt handle as a disassembly tool for the ARGO system. The factory bolt handle: 12.5 grams Design Concepts: 8.23 grams carriercomp: 9.6 grams GG&G: 24.5 grams Weights were taken from a Dillon Precision electronic scale. With the GG&G unit installed, I could hear and feel the action cycling more sluggishly with weaker loads. I would not recommend exceeding the factory bolt handle weight. Edited April 2, 2013 by StrangerDanger Typo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forzArmata Posted January 22, 2013 Share Posted January 22, 2013 3/4" FFT titanium on my M4. Love it. I bought two FFT ti knobs so I can replace them as they wear, and a 1/2" FFT titanium as a third backup, but am sticking with the 3/4" as it is much nicer on my hand. On a similar note, the GG&G Tactical Bolt Release Pad is a MUCH better mod to do, if you had to chose just one over the other... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangerDanger Posted January 22, 2013 Share Posted January 22, 2013 ForzArmata: I take it you're right handed? How do you engage the activation switch on the X300 in that position? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benelliwerkes Posted January 23, 2013 Share Posted January 23, 2013 ForzArmata: How do you engage the activation switch on the X300 in that position? ........always asking the tough questions ! IF right-handed, I guess you could toggle it with the right index finger, but it doesn't look natural. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forzArmata Posted January 23, 2013 Share Posted January 23, 2013 ForzArmata: I take it you're right handed? How do you engage the activation switch on the X300 in that position? I am right-handed, and toggle it with my left index finger. Works like a charm. Given that the rocker switch works in three different ways, it's easily activated when pressed or "rocked" (pulled like a trigger toward the forend, as in my below pic) It's not as clean as a pressure switch, but keeps the gun ultra clean and makes the light easily transferrable between my weapons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest jsn124 Posted January 23, 2013 Share Posted January 23, 2013 forzArmata - nice setup! Not to deviate from the charging handle but do you have some type of rubber / synthetic rail covers on your M80? A ladder type maybe? StrangerDanger - thank you for the detailed pics showing the wear on handle. That is exactly what I meant to convey! As I mentioned I'm very happy with the FFT but I'll keep an eye on the wear. Of course if anyone might be willing to sell me a gen 2 Carrier Comp Ti hybrid I'm all ears Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XTrooper Posted January 23, 2013 Share Posted January 23, 2013 .........do you have some type of rubber / synthetic rail covers on your M80? A ladder type maybe? They are the Surefire M4 rubber rail covers. They're cheap and I love them; comfortable and very low profile. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest jsn124 Posted January 23, 2013 Share Posted January 23, 2013 They are the Surefire M4 rubber rail covers. They're cheap and I love them; comfortable and very low profile. Thanks XTrooper! I see them online and I'll have to pick some up. Great price I agree! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XTrooper Posted January 23, 2013 Share Posted January 23, 2013 Thanks XTrooper! I see them online and I'll have to pick some up. Great price I agree! You're welcome! They're also easy to cut-to-length around your rail-mounted accessories. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forzArmata Posted January 24, 2013 Share Posted January 24, 2013 Yes, they are the factory supplied Z70 rail covers. I like how they dip in the middle - they mate well with the centre cutouts on the side rails (bottom rail on M80 forend is the solid style ladder). They fit the best on the hand as they keep a low profile, on an already semi-fat forend. I tried KAC stippled rail covers, but they made it WAY too fat, and I have fairly large hands. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TD-Max Posted January 25, 2013 Share Posted January 25, 2013 Are the carrier comp handles still in production? I can't seem to find it on their site, only the mag tubes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John P. Posted January 25, 2013 Share Posted January 25, 2013 Are the carrier comp handles still in production? I can't seem to find it on their site, only the mag tubes. Looks like he might've suspended them due to focusing on mag tubes b/c of the lawmaking fear/hysteria. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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