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I got a chance to shoot many rounds with my new Enhanced Beretta 1301 Tactical along with my Benelli M4. To make a fair comparison, I used Urbino pistol grip stocks (with limbsavers) for both shotguns. 10 rounds of same types of shells, switch to another shotgun, and repeat. From hot shells to low-recoil shells. It really made me wondering who said Beretta 1301 is smoother than M4. I found that M4 has softer recoil, better accuracy, better stability, and more fun to shoot! The differences were quite obvious. I still like my 1301 a lot. But, it's not "M4 contender" as some people kept saying online. And, it doesn't eat all rounds as people claimed either. Maybe my new 1301 hasn't been "broken in" yet. But It didn't eject or feed some of the low recoil rounds. (That's what we should expect on any semi-auto shotgun anyway.) Being lighter isn't totally an advantage either. It kicks more, making it less smooth for quick following shots. So, IMHO (if it's worth anything), 1301 is a great shotgun for HD with an excellent value, but it is still not at the same level with M4. M4 is definitely superior, if we ignore the price difference.

I have a new 1301 and I don't care for it. The comparisons to an M4 have no merit. The 1301 has too much plastic and a thin walled barrel. Mine lasted 50 rounds before the barrel bulged, rear sight came loose, and some plastic in the action broke off and fell out. Luckily it was all fixed under warranty. The M4 is a robust military weapon; the 1301 is a commercial gun with black furniture.

Dave Metalworks.. 2 round extension - fits perfectly on the M1014 - nitride finish is high quality - finish matches the shotgun exactly! Comparing this one with the "Sure Shot high performance extension" is no comparison at all. Dave Metalworks is far superior.

I do enjoy gun tinkering!! Buy part - Install part - Repeat

Yes, M3 design is closer to a long-stroke piston design, even though it uses inertia (or manual) to cycle. The bolt carrier group has the bolt and a big long "carrier" to accommodate the big spring in the front. It's much more weight to move in cycling. It causes more wobbles. Beretta 1301 is a long-stroke piston design. Examples are AK-47, Sig 556, PWS MK-series, etc. Benelli M4 is a short-stroke piston design. Examples are SIG MCX, SCAR, LWRC, etc. Long-stroke and short-stroke have different design philosophy and tradeoffs. But, in general, long-stroke piston designs have larger and heavier bolt carrier groups, which tend to cause more wobbles and reduce accuracy. I was so curious why Beretta 1301 long-stroke design could be "better" than M4's simple design as people claimed. Well, it's not. I went through the whole nine yards to confirm my thought. But, anyhow, I don't regret getting 1301 at all. It's still a great shotgun. Just not "military" level. Back to M3 vs M4. I read the recent article in American Rifleman saying that USMC should adopt M3 instead of M4. Well, I am not sure if the author really got the fundamental differences of the two designs. Using inertia to cycle a heavier bolt carrier group wouldn't be the most robust solution for combat. M3 is a great tradeoff if one switches between lethal and non-lethal rounds, and is a perfect shotgun for civilizes. For marines who don't care for non-lethal rounds, M4 is more appropriate. P.S. I am not against long-stroke piston designs. I got Sig 556 and PWS.

I mean... Value differs person to person. Nothing wrong with OEM as it functions just fine. Briley is match grade crispy though which for me makes for a nicer shooting experience. 3 gun folks would get value out of it in comp. Range toy, meh.

? Good night nurse! Nods, one M4 Entry and another on the way, Surefire lights, Scalarworks mounts and T2’s, boxes and boxes of suppressors….. [In my best Ron Swanson voice] What’s a non-gay way for me to ask you to go camping? ?

What a time the last decade and a half has been.

This is me shooting my first Benelli M4, circa 2008. I had had it for a few weeks or so. Maybe less. Also included is a photo of my "best" setup, from 2008, before the rail shredded my LaRue mount, lol! This is a Pride Fowler RDS in a LaRue mount, as I recall. Video: 102608_1826[00] (4).3g2 This little thread has been a fun trip down memory lane for me.

I picked it up from a small shop in Ohio who listed on their website and Gunbroker. Gunbroker saved searches can be useful in finding unicorns if you check regularly and act quick when you find something. Prices can range significantly depending on the seller's desires.

I thought you had to be at least 13 years old to be on this Forum? Stops this 8 y/o stuff...