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He's not terribly high. Looking at recent previous sales on GB for this configuration (pistol grip stock and 7+1) the lowest was $1700. https://www.gunbroker.com/item/881570377 Tony, if you are selling it to pay for medical bills, I understand. I've been there. If you are selling it just because of your shoulder, it will heal and you'll be sorry you sold it. I've been there too. I had a birth defect as well as a rotator cuff tear that they repaired. But, about a year to the day later I was shooting 3.5" again in my SBE. Before I had the surgery, a doctor told me it would take 9 months to a year before your arm feels like it is attached and where it belongs. I thought what an odd statement. It was bizarrely true. I felt that if I threw a ball during that time after surgery, that my whole arm and the ball would go flying. I love your email address by the way. ?

Does it do this with just that one brand of ammo? Does it do this with both high and low brass shells?

I asked the misses last night what they were called that we have. She said they are sometimes called placemats, nightstand/table runners, or lamp cloths. I thought about using an appropriately sized desktop mat like this: https://smile.amazon.com/ZBRANDS-Artificial-Protector-Extended-Rectangular/dp/B077J45THF/ref=sr_1_49?dchild=1&keywords=nightstand+mat&pd_rd_r=9bb8dd5c-53ec-450b-8a26-19f22c2ae178&pd_rd_w=xtXJ6&pd_rd_wg=9rpA7&pf_rd_p=0ec05f25-9534-48fe-9c3e-40b89957230e&pf_rd_r=77C63HBHM7EZCY66YMYA&qid=1606843077&sr=8-49 Or, if you don't have to take into account feminine sensibilities with what you pick (aka, not married), what about a tanned leather section or even a complete skin like rabbit and leave it fur side up? OK. That is about all I got for ideas for this type of stuff. I normally defer any type of decor stuff to her. She goes fairly neutral (not too feminine or masculine).

I don't know a thing about all the small optics. I am interested in them, just haven't bought or shot any... I keep reading about the weight issues and making sure of a positive grip in the M4's and I just don't get it either. I mean, isn't why they went with gas operation? For recoil or inertia operation, I can see it. I can duplicate on demand making my SBE 1 not cycle the next shell by holding the gun to my side and pulling the trigger. The gun will eject the empty, then bolt will close on an empty chamber. This makes sense due to lack of resistance not allowing the recoil spring to compress fully. But the gas? It will even cycle properly down to 14" barrels which doesn't leave a lot of room between the ports and the end. Was this helpful? Probably not at all. But, I have been seeing all these posts about weight and proper hold and can't see how it matters on the M4. I wondered if it was some oft-reported, seldom seen issue blown completely out of proportion or if it really does matter. If so, can someone elaborate?

No offense to Benelli, but this is explicitly what turned me off with the change from the SBE to the SBE II and later. I don't have a recoil issue with shotguns, even on 3.5" mags. But, them eventually getting either hard or gummy seems inevitable. Reminds me of the whole Remington / Limbsaver recoil pads. Once they started, they were done and only got worse and worse with time. I had some get so bad that they literally "melted" and stuck to the carpeting on the bottom of the safe. Remington, in their "infinite" wisdom won't send me just the pads for their expensive Titanium series rifles. Instead, they want me to send it back to them to replace the entire stock. You know, the stock that you can buy from McMillian, Bell and Carlson, HS Precision (I think the original maker of these), that you can buy off the shelf and put it on with 2 screws. I am not keen on sending a mint, out of production ~$2k rifle, with $2.5k scope, etc through the rough and tumble shipping companies just to get a $50 pad. The irony here, is that some of my ~$600 700's with the Bell and Carlson stock had the same type of sticky pads (but were not interchangeable with these). Instead of the pads, they sent the whole replacement stock.

I used to want one to go with my Browning BAR. But, around that time I started reloading and hated to see my precious brass flying off into the woods after shots in the field. So, I instead sold the BAR and now, for those types of guns and activities, I stick with bolt and lever action. Now that there are other caliber options for the AR family, I may eventually get one. I am not into the whole tacticool rifle phase, but with the .450 Bushmaster, .458 SOCOM, .300 Whisper or .300 Blackout, they have piqued my interest. I just have never found a use for a .223/5.56 but then again I haven't humped tons of rounds into combat so I could see the desire for lighter weight there.

I just use a plastic drawer organizer insert for keys, medicine, phone holster, etc. I take my billfold and CCW into the bedroom with me. Gun on top of night stand still in holster, billfold in night stand behind CPAP. In a past life (AKA before married life), I used a magnetic parts pan (those about the size of a cup saucer). I used spray adhesive and put some felt on the bottom that I had left over from a gun cleaning drawers I built. A bigger one of similar could work. I liked it for my purpose because it was heavy enough not to push around easily. However, if you put your EDC in it directly, without the holster, it'd likely stick to it instead. Another option is just to put one of those small lamp mats (or whatever the hell those things are called). Technically, my CCW in pocket holster sits on one of those along with a mini fan. It helps the latter from vibrating noises.

I've had this exact same issue with other guns in the past. ALL of them were caused by either dirty firing pin channel or too much oil. I saved my brother-in-laws elk hunt one year on his Remington 700 by opening it up and drying the firing pin and putting it back together (not easy at 10 below zero without the bolt disassembly tool). Somewhat related, I have also bought a lot of shotguns from fellow waterfowlers that owned "jam-o-matics". All I did was dry them out (oil), clean them up real well, then use a dry spray lube instead. Shotguns with oiled mag tubes are the worse offenders, but other parts can and will have issues with thick viscosity oil in the bolt. A lot of the former owners of those guns ended up buying it back after they saw them working properly again. I've got a lot of Benelli semi-automatics and other than having to not use 7/8oz loads in the 3.5" chambered guns, they have been great. I've had lemons from other manufacturers before and it sucks. Even more so when they don't fix it. I just realized this topic is a couple years old. Hopefully the OP got his fixed and is out in the marsh hunting.

Sounds familiar to my sentiments when I bought my first Benelli. It was a Super Black Eagle (HK import) in '94. I bought it to have a single shotgun that could handle all the tasks I was using shotguns for. Previously, those roles were filled with at least 4 different shotguns. Every time I switched seasons and guns, I wouldn't shoot well at all for a little bit. Once I had the SBE in my hands, and after I figured out I could not shoot 7/8 oz dram loads through it, it has been flawless ever since. After having it for so long and loving it, I started looking at other Benelli shotgun models and my next one was a M3T (top folder) semi-auto/pump shotgun just because it was so neat. Then came another, then a M1T, then a Montefeltro, then another HK SBE, then a M4, then an M4 H2O #11711 model. I am certain the list will continue to grow as I find ones that interest me.

Tony, he was just looking for the barrel itself, but judging from the post before yours, he might not need that anymore now.

I can't tell if he did this, but Sportsman's lost them a customer with me in a similar fashion. I had things prepaid for an order when the Obama ammo shortage occurred. They sent out a message saying that all pending orders were cancelled. They had relisted them for the new triple price. They can change the price on their site, no problem. But, to cancel existing paid orders on current in-stock items just to price gouge was a step way to far to me. If they would have filled existing orders on things they stated were in stock when they were ordered, THEN change the price, I get it. The way it was, I'll never shop there again. In your case, the lack of communication is generally a no-go for any repeat business.

Just one persons opinion, but I don't feel they give much, if any, advantage in the field. I'd personally recommend going with what you've got. Besides, in the current political climate, they are likely still hard to find. Wait for the tacti-cool frenzy to pass some and get it then for half of what they are going for now if you do decide you still want it.

Building up the front of the grip like you mentioned would likely be the easiest but unsightly as you mentioned. Only thing I could think of that might work permanently would require shortening the FRONT of the buttstock then re-contouring it and refinishing. That seems like a lot to do. They don't look like they have any difference between it and the others, but I guess it often doesn't take much change in this area to really notice it.

I've got one for an M1 as well that I'd sell. I bought it for my M1T. In the top pic, it is the barrel above, not the one mounted on the gun. I've got other pics too if you'd like.

And, from a seller with only 1 transaction on GB. Somebody's got some money and isn't afraid to spend it. When they were going over $5k, I was thinking ouch... I do wonder why this one was in a brown plain box. It appears to have a correct end label though unless it is a re-print. Mine has the typical new style white with red writing Benelli box.

Welcome to the forum. The search in the upper right corner is your friend. There have been a lot of posts about basically this same topic though most are oriented towards the actual installation of the tube itself. The forum member StrangerDanger is a 'smith and makes great pictorial instructions. It's likely you'll find what you need in this thread:

I would go as far as to call it nearly critical in the mag and recoil tubes in field guns. I can't recall how many shotguns I have bought from hunters in our extended hunting group. They complained that their gun was a POS and jammed all the time. I'd take it home, and clean those two areas, put on dry, and took it hunting next time. Many times the same person bought it back after seeing the issue was gone. Take care and enjoy your new Benelli. ?

These are fine arms. There is no such thing as being over protective. If you don't already know, one mistake people often make is to use a wet lube on the magazine tube, recoil tube in the butt stock, or putting too much of it on the bolt rails. Always use dry lube on the mag and recoil tubes and either use dry on the rails, or run light oil only. Otherwise, they'll catch dust and dirt and will gunk up to the point that they may not cycle. This is particularly important on fall hunts where the grasses and such are all dry. With wet lube, dropping a shell on the ground and putting it in the gun can start the process. I believe all Benelli shotgun barrels are chrome lined. This aids in cleaning, as well as a major rust preventative on the inside.

I agree with Songdog, they don't know what they are talking about. In my opinion, they either can't afford one for themselves so they are disparaging it so you don't have a nicer/better gun. Or, they've never fired a Benelli; Any Benelli... The only Benelli's that wouldn't be great for skeet are the "tactical" versions with short barrels and without interchangeable chokes. I've got a 1994 HK Benelli Super Black Eagle. I have never replaced a single part in it. I take it goose hunting up in Canada and it is not uncommon to shoot 200 3.5" mags over the course of the long week(s) of hunting. If you are only going to skeet and no hunting, then most any of the Benelli line would suite you well. Parts are still readily available so should be able to find anything you ever need anything, or want options (such as pistol grip stock, extended magazine, and/or short barrel for home defense). Some say the M4 model has lighter recoil since it is a gas operated gun not an inertia gun like the rest. Personally, I don't really notice it. But, my M4's are of the 'tactical' variety so that may be part of it. I'd suggest finding a brick and mortar store in your area that is a Benelli dealer and go hold a few models. Sometimes one has an idea of what they want, but once it is in their hands, it may not fit right and another model might be just what you are after.

I can simulate a poor hold on my old SBE at any time by letting it swing with zero resistance. Even then though, it will fire, open, eject, but then close on empty chamber. I thought with gas that should not have any impact. I'll second the sentiment above that a rifled choke tube does nothing for sabot slugs. BUT, the sabots rock on a fully rifled slug barrel.

Nope., not rust. It looks like powder residue to me. I've hunted weeks at a time in cold and wet, during waterfowl seasons with no cleaning and no Ill effect on my SBE. That gun is 26 years old now and still looks and works like new. Good maintenance is always good, but unless spending time in salt water areas, I wouldn't think you'd have any issues going that long between cleaning. That said, if you do have to "ride hard and put it away wet", I'd check it thoroughly when you are done and put protectant on it.

I've seen a person mount a "scout" scope to the barrel itself. These scopes, because of their long eye relief do work quite well. This is EXACTLY why I went with my SBE for a slug barrel instead of the M1 even though I didn't need the extra chamber length. The fact that the receiver extension is part of the barrel, you can mount your scope to it and when the barrel comes off, so does the scope. I put a Leupold UltimateSlam 2x7x33 on mine and it seems to be about perfect for my, admittedly aging, eyes. Very ingenious setup you created. As you said, it certainly took some creativity. I wonder if things would have lined up right from underneath to actually thread a steel mount and put screws in from the bottom instead.

Yeah, I'll take it. I couldn't remember my forum login after I left work. PM will be sent shortly after I post.

OK some of you smart fella's... @StrangerDanger@VertigofirearmsWill this work on a M3T folder? As mentioned above, I know it won't lock into the sight so the actual folding portion wouldn't do much in the field. But, would it fit and function on the old HK M3T's? If so, I'll take it.

I'm interested if it will for sure work on my old HK M3T (folder). I know it wouldn't lock, but I don't see a reason it wouldn't function aside from that. They still have these cataloged. https://www.shopbenelli.com/barrels/60046 When/if they come in stock again is another matter. Is there any difference between the old M3 barrels and the new ones? Or, is this an old/original model? Tax? Is this from your business?