Trapshooter1

Holy sh*t, I think I see a peice missing in this crazy expensive cleaning kit

BTW I am not saying you should get that outrageously expensive cleaning kit, like my gun, I could have paid much more, and I could have paid much less. I wanted a gun that is super reliable, and feels good, and a relatively high price made sure of quality, the M2. I do the same thing with my cleaning kit, a set of brass rifle jags, a 1 piece coated cleaning rod, shotgun bore jag, brushes, etc. I could get another wally world kit but I would rather spend a little extra to assure I won't break it in a couple months, but not go over board.

I use one of those walmart cleaning kits, but the rod end got bent when I had to un stick a 22 shell and left a sharp edge that scratched the bore. I covered that section with heat shrink and next time I am going to buy a 1 piece coated rod. The bore brush is ok in those walmart kit, but the plastic rifle jags break pretty easy. And the bore mop is good for 1 pass and needs cleaned again. The patch holders don't clean the bore very good either. The best way to clean a shotgun bore IMO: http://www.cabelas.com/cabelas/en/templates/links/link.jsp?id=0005334224182a&type=product&cmCat=SEARCH_all&returnPage=search-results1.jsp&Ntk=Products&QueryText=bore+jag&sort=all&Go.y=0&_D%3AhasJS=+&N=0&Nty=1&hasJS=true&_DARGS=%2Fcabelas%2Fen%2Fcommon%2Fsearch%2Fsearch-box.jsp.form23&Go.x=0&_dyncharset=ISO-8859-1 A walmart kit would be acceptable for someone who only shoots a couple hundred rounds a month. But I have put over 1000 rounds a month through my super nova And a few good 1 time investments make cleaning alot easier.

The Federal turkey shells I use share the same FC wad as black cloud and it says not to use it with a ported choke for the best results. Briley also offers their version of the black cloud choke tube: http://briley.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=1229

Benelli mobile choke. It comes in different restrictions so you can decide what constriction you need. Factory tubes are hard to find, but you can buy after market flush chokes and not be able to tell the difference. You can also get longer chokes that extend about 3/4 to 1" past the barrel. They pattern better because they have a smoother tapper. Here is a link to some good chokes: http://www.briley.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWCATS&Category=3

You can buy longer barrels but they are very expensive, and if you want to go longer you cant ger ghost ring but you can get some rifle sight slug barrels.

I guess I will take your word for it, as you are no novice to shotguns, I need to try this myself. If only I had two identical shotguns with different barrel lengths What was the barrel lengths of the 2 guns.

http://www.benelliusa.com/forum/showthread.php?t=19637 ask tucker to pm you.

Were you using a rest? 15% difference sounds like to much to believe.

No, not any difference as far as how shot pattens, and not much on slugs, although I doubt you are going to use it on slugs. There is a tiny difference in swing/feel. A 24" might be to "whippy" and you might swing to fast. A 26" would be a little more barrel heavy, but probably not even noticeable. So a 26" might perform better but I couldn't tell you what you will perform better with. Your personal opinion is probably a bigger factor.

For a buck fifty a box I would want the slugs to leave the barrel to

Accuracy? Really? You find them to be more accurate? Have you patterned 2 barrels from the same shells, same brand, same model, and same chokes? The only accuracy difference those 2" will make, is the fact that the shot leaves the barrel and begins to expand 2" closer. You might as well take a baby step forward and you would make up the difference and then some. With slugs, a longer barrel is less desirable, slugs actually go so slow, that the muzzle jump starts to happen before the slug leaves the barrel. The faster the slug leaves the barrel the less raise it is going to have. The raise wouldn't be a problem, but it is in consistent, you might have a tighter or looser hold when you actually point it at an animal and pull the trigger. Riffled slugs and riffled barrels, have rotational torque that can affect the flight of a slug to, making it go slightly to the left in consistently, and this is more so with a longer barrel. So a slug gun is not desirable to be as long as possible, and scatter guns are much more effected by bore diameter, forcing cone length, and chokes than they are by 2" of barrel length powder consumption and range.

Doesn't look like a particularly good deal, That is what I paid for my M2 and it was new with the break down case, oil chokes, manuals, etc. Plus it was camo which raises it's value, and it has comfortech and longer chokes.

A 26" should swing better, and is what I would go with, but if you need a short barrel for going through brush then a 24" may fit your needs better, what do you normally use and is the barrel to long etc? In theory the 26" should perform better but you may shoot better with a 24". Shoulder the gun in both lengths if you can, and decide from there.

+1 IC is to open, you could get away with light mod. most use mod. I use Improved mod.

Would one of those little pipe cleaners be about the right size?

Correct me if I am wrong which I probably am, but aren't they supposed to be self cleaning? Just like barrel ports. The speed of the gas is like a pressure washer blowing away any gunk from the last shot.

That guy that said he bore sighted it must think the slug shoots where a lazer lined up with the bore would, wrong. I don't like bore sighting, It is only good to get the gun on the target, not on the bull's eye. There were multiple reviews saying it broke from heavy loads. They didn't specify how it broke though, but Cabelas is excellent for returning. Every thing I have ordered from them came in in 3 days. 4.2 out of 5 out of 20 reviews is a pretty good review I would go for it if it has every thing you want. Any body saying it is impossible to sight in must have not tightened it down enough. A torque screw driver would be handy for that.

Oh yea I should had remembered your post "took the plunge" in the stoeger forum.

I used to have that problem on hard angles I would always raise my head right as I pulled the trigger, but I usually broke them.

I don't know how rare these are, but some pretty expensive shotguns: http://gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=137197863 http://gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=137231231 http://gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=137392057

I am going to guess a 10th aniversary SBE

OK I misunderstood sorry.

What is the new one? Maxus maybe? Even though Benellis go longer w/o cleaning, how do they get so much gunk all the way back to the end of the recoil tube?

Your almost 2000 posts on this forum wouldn't happen to be mostly pictures of these guns would they? Just kidding, I enjoy seeing them every time, they are just getting a little old, sounds like a good excuse to buy the new legacys