StrangerDanger Posted September 22, 2017 Share Posted September 22, 2017 [video=youtube_share;z7RD5776u3A] Pretty cool video of these trigger packs from A&S being made. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVATactical.com Posted September 22, 2017 Share Posted September 22, 2017 (edited) Really Cool Video. Made me want to see the engineering and design video too! That guy couldn't possibly be more humble. Edited September 22, 2017 by AVATactical.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
les_garten Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 The only thing I wish they would change is how "up front" the logo is. Other than that, they look killer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evolution Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 (edited) I found the fit to be solid. No unwanted movement anywhere. They’re a step above the oem aluminum units with machined surfaces and zero casting marks. The surface is also a lot smoother so moving mechanical components operate smoother. How did you end up with a black one? Also the fit on yours looks perfect, whereas the fit on bugout6's looks to have a pretty big gap between the back of his trigger guard and the front piece on the pistol grip. In any case, I ordered one today, we'll see what I get. My M4 has the metal trigger housing but I ordered this one only because the finely machined one by A&S Vs the OEM seems more fitting to such a fine weapon as the M4. Edit; I see now that the pics make it look a different color, it's a light charcoal color, right? Both of you have different stocks than I do as well, so that can account for a gap in the fit. I have the OEM pistol grip stock on mine and the part that butts against the back of the trigger guard is more curved and fits perfectly flush against it. I have an H2O model and I think the color of the new guard will look good as it does on yours. Edited September 23, 2017 by Evolution Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toaster Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 Tell them no one here Cares, les Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evolution Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 I just got mine from A&S yesterday. It's a very nicely made piece. The receiver fit and mating to the stock is perfect, slides into and fits exactly like the OEM cast aluminum piece. No gaps or play whatsoever in the receiver or stock. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jolly Roger Posted October 22, 2017 Share Posted October 22, 2017 Was online with Fred at A&S the other day, there finishing up a test run on black guards soon and trying to dial in the color just right. Will post pics as soon as I get mine from him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
les_garten Posted October 23, 2017 Share Posted October 23, 2017 Was online with Fred at A&S the other day, there finishing up a test run on black guards soon and trying to dial in the color just right. Will post pics as soon as I get mine from him. Don't tease me... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toaster Posted October 23, 2017 Share Posted October 23, 2017 (edited) Maybe the customer complaints finally got to him somehow.... I doubt my 3 messages including quotes from you lazy deadbeats had ANY impact whatsoever.. *eyeroll* Amazing Any chance you can get that gaudy logo off the bottom too? Or at least a discreet engraving like Ava Edited October 23, 2017 by Toaster Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unobtanium Posted October 23, 2017 Author Share Posted October 23, 2017 Maybe the customer complaints finally got to him somehow.... I doubt my 3 messages including quotes from you lazy deadbeats had ANY impact whatsoever.. *eyeroll* Amazing Any chance you can get that gaudy logo off the bottom too? Or at least a discreet engraving like Ava Maybe it was polite conversations that people like myself had with them about product improvement and outlining cost/benefit along with not being adversarial? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jolly Roger Posted October 27, 2017 Share Posted October 27, 2017 It HERE! All Black awesomeness...........................!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evolution Posted October 27, 2017 Share Posted October 27, 2017 So, where is it? Like to see it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unobtanium Posted October 28, 2017 Author Share Posted October 28, 2017 It HERE! All Black awesomeness...........................!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Not gonna click that link, bro! Not with that description. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toaster Posted October 28, 2017 Share Posted October 28, 2017 (edited) As funny as that is, and as much as I laughed... best be careful, ya racist. And I doubt it. "Accuracy by volume is also effective" and so is few old-school ********"" like myself, bantering him for being a dumbass while you all "nicely" voice your opinions Yall a bunch of sugercoated puff drops anymore. Including the individual at A&S.. Speak to me like a Man, not some mumbling old man thats beaten by his wife into submission. If you cant take a sincere amount of criticism, I will call you a dumb **** and move on. I dont care. If he doesnt wanna listen to his customer base, he can cram those gaudy silver guards up his ass sideways. If he is too dense to see the incredibly obvious things I am telling him, what makes you think he is bright enough to deserve my attention? If he cant get the color right. What else cant he do. He is using a VMC for christ sake, this guy is no god. He is using 1990s technology. All I see is some kinda OK product he is making to fill a void in the market and try to make a living.. All while running **** customer service, and R&D. Effectively tattooing the forehead of every product. I wear a white T shirt, Carharts, and work boots, if I am not dressed up. I dont wear a hat with a baseball team, a shirt with a company, and shoes with a basketball player. My body is my temple and so is my M4. My girls dont wear yoga pants, and my car dont have bumper stickers. Cool a new part, Lets all go blindly buy it.. No! Pressure the manufacture into doing it right!, before bending over and taking it. Go Man up you bundle of sissies.. ... this place is an utter waste of time. Edited October 28, 2017 by Toaster Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jolly Roger Posted October 28, 2017 Share Posted October 28, 2017 Speaking of dumb ***'s Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evolution Posted October 28, 2017 Share Posted October 28, 2017 How's that hangover this mornin' toaster? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jolly Roger Posted October 28, 2017 Share Posted October 28, 2017 I'm not racist Toaster, I love black guns. If you don't like it don't buy it. I don't care what your daughter is wearing, if I did, Id just knock on your trailer door and see for myself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangerDanger Posted October 28, 2017 Share Posted October 28, 2017 What are we complaining about again? They’re making the black anodized units for the M4 crowd. Their original market was 3 gunners who don’t care what color they were/are since the ramp is going to get scuffed up when loading anyway. The guy at A&S emailed me a month or so ago and asked what direction I thought the M4 crowd would like to go since I bought a bunch of these units. I advised that they should move their logo markings to the inside for cosmetics along with either anodizing or Cerakoting the visible area. We’ll see what we get. Sometimes you have to be careful what you ask for. You could end up with rough type 3 anodizing that won’t operate as smoothly as the existing finish. It’s easy enough to have to visible areas Cerakoted whatever color you want if it’s a concern. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jolly Roger Posted October 28, 2017 Share Posted October 28, 2017 I found a hair in my chicken salad today.. I have a black A&S coming Monday, Ill post some pics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
les_garten Posted October 28, 2017 Share Posted October 28, 2017 What are we complaining about again? They’re making the black anodized units for the M4 crowd. Their original market was 3 gunners who don’t care what color they were/are since the ramp is going to get scuffed up when loading anyway. The guy at A&S emailed me a month or so ago and asked what direction I thought the M4 crowd would like to go since I bought a bunch of these units. I advised that they should move their logo markings to the inside for cosmetics along with either anodizing or Cerakoting the visible area. We’ll see what we get. Sometimes you have to be careful what you ask for. You could end up with rough type 3 anodizing that won’t operate as smoothly as the existing finish. It’s easy enough to have to visible areas Cerakoted whatever color you want if it’s a concern. I found a hair in my chicken salad today.. I have a black A&S coming Monday, Ill post some pics. Double Sweet! Thanx gents! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangerDanger Posted October 29, 2017 Share Posted October 29, 2017 Free floss! Alert the IRS of your windfall! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jolly Roger Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 (edited) Mail call! Received the A&S today AND a Scalarworks SYNC rail thanks to StrangerDanger! Thank you StrangerDanger!!!!!!!!!! Edited October 30, 2017 by Jolly Roger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jolly Roger Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 The trigger guard is flawless, the finish is even better than expected. New logo is awesome, proud to install this work of art on my M4! Thank you A&S Engineering! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Intervention Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 What color is that A&S, grayish? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
les_garten Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 I realize these guys are proud of their product and their company. I would wear a Polo shirt with a 1" Polo logo on it. (I actually prefer Perlis to Polo for these types of shirts, I like their Logo better too having lived in New Orleans) The current Polo shirts have like a 6" Logo on them. I would not buy one of those. Or I would get one and dye the Logo the same color as the shirt(I wouldn't do that but use it as an example of my idea here) What would be wrong with CNC'ing the Logo before the anodization? The Logo would be there, however it would not be a Neon Sign though. The competition guys don't mind because they are usually a Mosaic of Gaudy Logos. But I would prefer a more stealthy approach to the Logo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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