s10gto Posted May 26, 2013 Share Posted May 26, 2013 Anyone using a Reflex of any maker on there 12G. Do you find it better then a set of ghost sights or even open rifle. My brother has one on his ACR that he is thinking of switching out. Thought maybe a good sight for my Benelli. Your thoughts. Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sukhoi_fan Posted May 27, 2013 Share Posted May 27, 2013 I'm using a Micro T-1 and I find it to be much better than any iron sights. I think once you try it you'll never take it off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benelliwerkes Posted May 27, 2013 Share Posted May 27, 2013 (edited) I like the Micro T-1 too; also using SureFire Dueck off-set BUIS. Finally, Tennebraex just made the ARD kill flash for the T-1 available. Edited May 27, 2013 by benelliwerkes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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notrabmas Posted May 27, 2013 Share Posted May 27, 2013 Ever think about getting the Larue low profile mount for the T-1? I like the Micro T-1 too; also using SureFire Dueck off-set BUIS. Finally, Tennebraex just made the ARD kill flash for the T-1 available. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sukhoi_fan Posted May 27, 2013 Share Posted May 27, 2013 Ever think about getting the Larue low profile mount for the T-1? I'm using an A.R.M.S. #31 mount which is pretty low, and it also plays friendly with the OEM rail (so far at least). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
s10gto Posted May 27, 2013 Author Share Posted May 27, 2013 Thanks Guys! Huge help! Sweet set-up! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benelliwerkes Posted May 27, 2013 Share Posted May 27, 2013 (edited) I think I have every QD LaRue mount they have ever made....the low profile is too low for my optical line of sight registered off the cheek weld. The Daniel Defense is also a low mount, with an open see-thru mount style to view the stock iron sights.....but the optical axis is again too low for my needs. Edited May 27, 2013 by benelliwerkes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
notrabmas Posted May 27, 2013 Share Posted May 27, 2013 Wow, that actually makes a lot of sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangerDanger Posted May 27, 2013 Share Posted May 27, 2013 (edited) I'm a fan of the Aimpoint T1 on the low LaRue mount. They're like cheating when it comes to speed and target acquisition. Edited May 27, 2013 by StrangerDanger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaegerbataillon511 Posted May 27, 2013 Share Posted May 27, 2013 Can I see through a T1 and a eotec 552 with a shouldered M4 and the collapsible stock fully retracted, or should I use a higher mount of some sort? I am more interested in the eotech 552 used by the British forces on their L128A1 shotgun, because they are powered on common AA batteries which you can find everywhere. One of my M4 has only the 2 position stock, and I want to use the T1 or eotec 552 on both settings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangerDanger Posted May 27, 2013 Share Posted May 27, 2013 My setup around 2005 with an EOTech 552. Wore the EOTech out on the M4. Shot it until the reticle was fuzzy. It was also rather top heavy. Figure the EOTech 552 is about 11.5 ounces. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaegerbataillon511 Posted May 27, 2013 Share Posted May 27, 2013 Thanks, I see the T1 is about 3.7 ounces with an integrated mount compared to the 11.5 ounces eotec 552 , but can someone use both sights without any particular higher mount on a Benelli M4 with the telescopic stock fully collapsed? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom-Gun Posted May 27, 2013 Share Posted May 27, 2013 SD - how about having proper/tight cheek weld on the collapsible stock and looking through T1? Did you notice some issues? Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangerDanger Posted May 27, 2013 Share Posted May 27, 2013 Using the T1 with the collapsible stock is the best option. When using the collapsible stock in the middle position, it raises your cheek weld slightly. Even with the low LaRue mount, the Aimpoint sits higher than the iron sights. I noticed an improvement in my cheek weld when I went from the fixed pistol grip stock to the collapsible stock for this exact reason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaegerbataillon511 Posted May 27, 2013 Share Posted May 27, 2013 Thanks again:) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom-Gun Posted May 27, 2013 Share Posted May 27, 2013 (edited) SD - is it Larue Tactical LT661 mount? BTW Probably will not be the same when mounting on the OEM rail? I think yours is aftermarket - carriercomp? Edited May 27, 2013 by Tom-Gun Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
notrabmas Posted May 27, 2013 Share Posted May 27, 2013 SD - is it Larue Tactical LT661 mount? BTW Probably will not be the same when mounting on the OEM rail? I think yours is aftermarket - carriercomp? It is the LT661, but optics don't work on the OEM top rail. You have to buy an after-market one (Carriercomp, Freedom Fighter Tactical, or Sidearmor). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sukhoi_fan Posted May 27, 2013 Share Posted May 27, 2013 optics don't work on the OEM top rail. As I posted earlier, I'm using an A.R.M.S. #31 mount on the OEM rail with no issues so far. AFAIK it's just the LaRue that is incompatible with the OEM rail. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
notrabmas Posted May 27, 2013 Share Posted May 27, 2013 As I posted earlier, I'm using an A.R.M.S. #31 mount on the OEM rail with no issues so far. AFAIK it's just the LaRue that is incompatible with the OEM rail. I've heard that most optics won't work with the OEM, but I could be wrong. That's why I thought everyone changes theirs. I guess YMMV though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangerDanger Posted May 28, 2013 Share Posted May 28, 2013 (edited) It's mainly LaRue mounts that are no go with the factory rail. Other mounts that use a full cross bolt design that spans the sight channel cut are normally fine. Here is the damage done to a LaRue mount when paired with the factory rail. The damage occurs during recoil. Yes, the mount I use is a LaRue Tactical LT661. The top rail is a carriercomp rail. A FFT rail would also suffice. Edited May 28, 2013 by StrangerDanger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M4-Desert Camo Posted May 28, 2013 Share Posted May 28, 2013 I had problems with the built in mount on my Surefire X300 Ultra on the factory rail. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigkim Posted May 28, 2013 Share Posted May 28, 2013 It's mainly LaRue mounts that are no go with the factory rail. Other mounts that use a full cross bolt design that spans the sight channel cut are normally fine. Here is the damage done to a LaRue mount when paired with the factory rail. The damage occurs during recoil. Yes, the mount I use is a LaRue Tactical LT661. The top rail is a carriercomp rail. A FFT rail would also suffice. So, I decided I wanted a t1 on my new m4. I ordered the t1, but then I read that it didn't work well with the benelli rail, so I ordered the sidearmor rail and shell side saddle. This shotgun is deadly to the wallet. Mind you I already bought the FFT forearm, follower, titanium mag tube. I think the 4 designates 4 dollar signs and should be read like benelli "m$$$$" instead of a benelli "m4". Anyhow, I ordered from Larue with the 661 and the aimpoints are backordered for "2-5 weeks", so that also gave me the option of considering changing from a 4moa to a 2moa. I did so this morning. It seems to be the consensus that the aimpoint t1 is one of the best optics for the M4, but what about the 2 vs 4 debate in this case. It seemed to me that the 2 has more versatility, as you can just turn it up a bit for close range. In Indiana, we can't use rifles, so shotguns are our all around hunting firearms. I am definitely going to shoot rabbits, and possibly pheasants with the m4, but I may try deer too. It could also be possible that I will put the t1 on my rifled deer slug gun in order to try it. So, back to the original post.... The T1 is good, but does anyone delineate between the 2 and 4 moa much for this platform? Anyone hunt with a T1? Everything I found was in relation to AR platforms. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scout_21 Posted May 28, 2013 Share Posted May 28, 2013 I found this to be a useful vid ( ) I'd be interested in hearing anyone else's options too...as I think I'll be picking one up sooner rather than later. Cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom-Gun Posted May 28, 2013 Share Posted May 28, 2013 I will choose 2MOA version when using on both platforms: rifle & shotgun. If you gonna mount it only on the shotgun I will stick with 4MOA dot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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