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Update: I installed the bolt release button. Thanks to StrangerDanger for the awesome instructions. Here are a couple of pictures. Thanks

As a general inquiry, what type of knurling do you all prefer to have? I am thinking to not have such sharp knurling as to cut up the hands, but knurling with a bit more of a flat top on it that will still provide grip, but not chew up the hands. If any of you have any input on your preference would love to hear it. I had in mind, something similar to the attached photo. Thanks.

I have one very similar to this one. It's been on my "daily driver" so long I forget where it came from. Never a problem with it. I also like the looks of this one: https://www.rxarms.com/#h.p_03Hhox2MkREf It requires no machining, drilling, tapping or tools of any sort. Only $46 bucks If it's too good to be true then it probably is. Since it's a crappy day here in the socialist northeast and boredom had set in, I set my sights on making one. Needs a tad bit of refining but Ya know what, the darn thing works good. Just have to find something that's a better color match for my H2O. Took all of 20 or 30 minutes to make. Here are a few pics....................

Old thread but thank you StrangerDanger once again for sharing your knowledge.

Ya not my first ride on the crazy mod train lol, it is a curse. My cars, motorcycles, firearms, computers, etc are all modded or build with my own hands. No kids to put through college or drug addiction so I blow my money on toys. I am working on a heck of a mod todo list for this.

It came into my FFL on the 9th, but I couldn't pick it up till today cause he was in the hospital. The receiver is Black Black, and the manufacture year is 21. Need to tweak the foam in my 3gun case for that insane LOP on the stock. Was strange that it comes only in cardboard unassembled, when far cheaper guns come with a cheap plastic case. not whining, just caught off guard.

I've been busy with my new job and not as diligent as I should be in watching the forum. Evolution paid me promptly and this was an excellent transaction. Thankyou!

Just want to publicly say thanks to Unobtanium for the trigger group I bought from him in this thread. I received it today and it is perfect and new just as he described it. I knew that it would be from my impression of him during the last several years on this forum, is that he is a person who is very meticulous about his firearms. He also sent it out to me without first receiving the funds I sent him. Thank you, sir!

Big dog covered most of it. There is an instant gratification route, but it is initially costly. You’d have to buy two M4’s, a M1014 and an 11707 or similar variant. You’d swap stocks from the M1014 onto the 11707 variant and install a full length magazine tube. You could then sell the M1014 with the fixed pistol grip stock. General consensus for 922 compliance is you need at least four US made parts. A US made full length magazine tube and follower count for two of those parts. You then have options for the other two, A&S engineering trigger frame, Briley/FFT/Benelli parts trigger/disconnector/hammer kits (counts for 3 parts), handguard or rail systems from various makers. Other options is a slower route. Waiting around for a 3 position receiver extension and having it installed to make the collapsible stock is certainly an option. The m1014’s barrel isn’t really heavier, it just wasn’t threaded for a choke. Briley will thread the barrel for you for around 160.00 if you want that option.

I suggest you scratch that M4 itch lol welcome to the forum! You have to weigh the options, cost, and your tools/ability to each option. With the 1014 you get the collapsible stock (which is currently worth 800 to 1000 bucks) and you get a fixed choke barrel (barrel is not threaded for chokes) is that is something you prefer - I have not seen the info about the 1014 barrel being thicker per se, just that it is not threaded for chokes. Downside is that you do not have the 3 position recoil tube. So in order to make the collapsible stock functional on the 1014, you will have to buy a new recoil tube - which are spotty to find right now, and then will have to put in some serious work to get the old tube off safely. You are going to need some serious heat/torque/work. Use the search function here, there are some good walk throughs. All that being said, it is still possible to do it all. You will still have the limited magazine tube to deal with and remove but a heat gun and some patience and you can easily take care of that on your own. With the 11707, you will have a 3 positon recoil tube under the stock, so that hard work is done. You will have to find and buy a collapsible stock (800-1000 bucks). With the barrel you will get one that is threaded for chokes if that is something you prefer. You will still have to deal with taking off and replacing the limited magazine tube but again, not too hard to do. Parts wise, the collapsible stock is what it is. Gunbroker and Ebay are the wild west. For the magazine tube there are lots of fantastic options - on this forum SOCOMguy tubes are well regarded, Dave's Metal Works makes great tubes, CarrierComp and Freedom Fighter Tactical make great titanium tubes that will shave some weight off the gun, Briley makes a carbon fiber tube that looks pretty nice on the gun too. Many options available - prices range from less than 100 bucks up to well into the 200/300 range for a full length tube. I am not a lawyer and did not stay at a Holiday Inn last night but a note you may or may not know about is 922(r) which is compliance parts. If you replace the magazine tube and go for the collapsible stock, you will need a total of 4 American made parts on the gun. The magazine tube would be 1, a new follower in the magazine tube would be 2. That means you would need 2 more American parts from a specific parts list replaced - so that means parts inside the trigger or a new trigger guard and parts inside the trigger, etc. GREAT info here: Learn 922(r) – Freedom Fighter Tactical Others will chime in on which option might be best but for me personally, I took option 2 and did the 11707 and am replacing and setting it up the way I want but you might feel that the 1014 option is better for you/your situation/skills and abilities.

Looks nice! Here's one I put together using a 1911 extended mag release button. Just had to drill and tap for a 5-40 screw to fit. All for about $25