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If they haven't already worked on it, you might see if they can re-expand the dent back out. That's something akin to sticking a circle plug into the barrel, that then concentrically expands pushing the dent out. Sometimes heat needs to be applied if the dent is big like you described. Being at the end, it might make that process even easier. A barrel might be too tough for wood, but you might be able to take a hardwood dowel that has the right diameter, but plane down the side so that it just fits inside. Then, slowly heat and rotate each way and see if the dent works itself out. Here's a great video from Midway on their dent removal service:

Forearm for sure would not fit, at least without modifications. The Montefeltro uses a small barrel ring and the M1 uses a large one that is capable of extended magazine tubes. My instinct tells me the buttstock would fit if they are both the same era. Newer Monte's have different contour than the HK era Monte's. The forearm could likely be carefully opened up using a Dremel, providing there is enough material in that area to do so and still allow enough to be left for the strength. I know Turkish gunmakers started making Benelli clones, and some came with wood stocks that can be purchased for quite a bit less than factory Benelli. I've seen some that swapped over with little to no work. I have no idea if they make a M1/M2 clone, but it might be worth a quick look. Turkish walnut is a beautiful wood.

Good luck. That's going to be a hard barrel to find, particularly in decent condition. I have a search on Gunbroker.com that notifies me whenever a used Benelli barrel shows up at auction. I also have a similar one on eBay. I probably have not seen 2 in 10 years go across the auction that I can remember. The 121's are not particularly expensive models, it might be time and money well spent to pick up a complete gun. on GB, I see them sell from ~$600 up and saw one in very good to near mint condition sell a while back go for $1,600 with accessories, and maybe the box, I can't remember. It was nice. I don't have any real desire for the 121 other than to complete my Benelli inertia shotgun collection, but I thought a while on buying that near mint one but ultimately passed when something on my list came up during its time. Here's a search if you want to use for GB. It searches for Benelli M121 in shotgun barrels, and excluded M4, Shaw, slug, SBE and new barrels (since these aren't made new, but does include used and new old stock). https://www.gunbroker.com/shotgun-barrels/search?keywords=benelli m121&exclude=m4 shaw slug sbe&condition=3&sort=13&pagesize=96

@JTKZM4 I think you can start sending DM/PM's after 5 or so public posts if memory serves. I think you'll likely get around what you are asking, but I'd suggest starting it a little lower. Often you'll get people in a bidding war and it'll go for more than if you had it set at a higher price. I've sold a lot on GB and while I am not brave enough to do penny auctions that many full time sellers swear by, I usually start them at ~10% below what I think they'll sell for. A few times I was wrong and that's what they've sold for, but most of the time they sell for more. I always do my research too and will check the advanced search on gunbroker and do a search under the completed items tab. It used to show for 90 days, but unfortunately it is much shorter now, I think just 30 days. I just looked and there are no 11711's on there. I bought mine NIB during the height of COVID and paid $5k, but the ones I've seen since late '23 or so have went for less than that with one exception I can recall that went for something like $6,300 for no reason than I can discern. Must of been two people in the aforementioned bidding war. Regarding your statements, yes, it will have to be shipped TO a FFL, but doesn't necessarily need to be shipped FROM a FFL though if you have one in the area that doesn't charge much for the service, it sometimes offsets the shipping cost as they charge us peasants more than FFL's for some reason. You can only ship firearms certain ways and certain carriers. No USPS. You have to use UPS or Fed-Ex and you have to go to the main locations, not a Fed-Ex/Kinko's or the like. As for listing on GunBroker, pictures sell. The best sellers selling premium stuff commonly put 50-70 pictures, and a few sellers put even more pictures with the ad. I favorite those sellers as I like to know exactly what I am getting as I am a conditions collector for almost all my stuff except my CCW and rough hunting items. Good luck with your sale.

@HunterColbert Glad to hear you found what you were after and I was able to help. You will love the inertia Benelli. That didn't really take that long. I saw that one go across the auction. Those Ducks Unlimited ones usually go for a little bit more than the regular model. Honestly, I am not sure why but they do nonetheless. You may have bought it just for this feature, many do but yours should be capable of "Ghost load" or "floating a shell" on the lifter. If you aren't familiar with it or how to do it, there are videos out there, but it is super easy. You load the magazine up, you put on directly in the chamber with the bolt manually held partially back. Then, you put a round on the lift gate/carrier then close the bolt. On early guns, this was an anti-jam feature in case an additional shell got past the magazine stop but people figured out how to do this. It is perfectly legal to use except when hunting seasons with a limited shell capacity to 3 rounds which is migratory birds (ducks, geese, dove, etc.), and there are probably many others, some possibly at the state level as well. Game wardens are very familiar with this trick so stay legal. Outside of those seasons though, you can effectively have a +1 capacity without the unsightly magazine extension and weight further forward. I remember playing around with this when I first discovered the capability of it functioning with a shell on the carrier. I know t his can be done with 3" shells I know. I don't remember about 3.5" shells. No idea on your experience with them, or with shotguns in particular but here's a few tips to keep it running for many years. One, NEVER use wet oil in the magazine tube. If you use lubrication there, use only dry spray. When you grab shells out of your pocket, or if you drop one on the ground and pick it up and insert it into the magazine, the wet oil will grab on to it and it will gum it up in short order. I have bought quite a few of these from fellow hunters that were "jam-o-matics" according to their owners. Took them apart to check them out and in all but once case the magazine was caked full. The only example that was maintenance related was the spring in the butt stock was very rusted. I found out later that he had fell over duck hunting. He caught himself, but the lower half of the receiver and butt stock were submerged for a bit while he got up with his waders full of water. He didn't realize there were moving parts below the tail on the bolt. Second, if you haven't heard of the of the "Benelli click", look it up. Though it has been GREATLY exaggerated, it has, does, and will happen. Once you see how and why it happens on this era of gun, you'll quickly understand when to check it. For me, that is anytime I set down the gun on its recoil pad hard with a loaded chamber. It seems to happen worse with longer shells which makes sense. It can also happen by snagging on clothing or brush. When it happens, it really isn't visible. I bought my original SBE in the mid-90's and I don't think it has happened to me 10 times. In fact, that original gun I bought new, about the only other thing it has ever done that wasn't perfect is if I shoot light loads such as 7/8 oz dram eq loads and occasionally 1 oz loads, it will fire, eject, then close on an empty chamber because the bolt doesn't come back far enough to hit the magazine release. I found that every 1 1/8 oz loads, even the el-cheapo Wal-Mart ones will work 100% of the time so that is what I used since then for skeet shooting. They are the same price anyway. If yours has much of an issue with Benelli Click, a lot of users found that a Wolf +25% spring takes care of it, or at least greatly diminishes it. Personally though, I wouldn't change to it unless you need it. Lastly, you may have heard of Garand thumb, there's also such thing as Benelli thumb. If you try to load these fast, the curve of the loading gate on these can really grab your thumb and bruise and even cut your thumb. The edge of the loading well can be sharp. If I were shooting competition, I might have that loading well rounded off, and the curve of the loading gate welded up or replace the carrier (not sure one is available for SBE, but it is for shorter length receivers). But, even fast field loading hasn't proven to be a big issue after going slow and seeing what causes the issue and then not doing that. I lightly bruise my thumb every decade or so just enough to remind myself not to stick my thumb in so far. I have said for probably 25 years that if I could only have 1 gun, it would be a SBE. I've already got a slug barrel and scope, and if needed a person could buy a spare barrel and cut it down to minimum legal length (18" I think) and make it into a home defense gun. It wouldn't conceal carry very well (LOL), but it would do about everything else a person would need, albeit not the best as having dedicated ones for each role, but if a person could only have one...

If the straightened part doesn't show any fatigue/stress cracks I'd be tempted to run it and perhaps keep the new one as a backup while looking for the exact part number. It also may be one of those things where it was determined they didn't need to be so strong so the original won't be available new but if that is the case you might find it used on Gunbroker or eBay. If you'd like peace of mind, you can take it to a machine shop and have it "magnafluxed". It's a process they do on engine blocks and heads to detect microscopic cracks in the metal.

Good to know. Not too many companies stand behind stuff like that anymore.

I posted something the other day on another forum that the person was wanting a barrel identified and it had the SBE type barrel extension, Crio barrel markings, longer barrel lug, and was fully rifled so I told them I was 99% sure it was a SBE II slug barrel as I didn't know of any other series that used that type of extension. Do any of you know of any? I've got M1, M2, M3, M4, Montefeltro, Black Eagle, and Super Black Eagles and I know of those, only the SBE has the barrel extension that makes up the top of the receiver instead of going INTO a full receiver. Pic for reference, SBE barrels below, you can see how the barrels make up the top 1/3rd of the receiver once installed: The others use the style like the M1 below where the extension is a lot smaller and goes into a solid receiver:

I didn't know that they would cover the ones in the forearms too. Cool...

I certainly wouldn't install it if it visually doesn't look the same. I was cross referencing other Benelli models at the time to see if any others were compatible that might have a different part number but oddly, it shows the M1, some Montefeltro's, and the later M2, and Super Black Eagle 2 Everywhere I looked is out of stock too. The original correct part number should be: 739860A Note that while looking using other methods, I saw a comment on Midway that a user used this one and it worked. It is on backorder but expected back in stock on the 2-23-25. https://www.midwayusa.com/product/1005360174/?pid=739699

Does your shotgun not currently shoot good patterns? If not, have you tried other choke tubes? I have used Carlson in the past, but when I have bought additional Benelli's in recent years, a lot of them didn't come with all the chokes so I tried Carlson. I found they didn't pattern at least as tight, and sometimes not as round of a pattern as the OEM factory ones (mine are all the older Mobil type). 8-10 choke tubes across 2 gauges isn't really much of a sample size for good conclusion, but that was my experience. I've never really looked into forcing cone changes on my Benelli because they shoot great already, but can that be done on Benelli's chrome lined barrel? It only specifically excludes the Benelli 828u, maybe it can be done. His products are great and he does good work. I don't however like his bright logo on his products. As far as pattern testing, it may not be as accurate as his, but you can pattern it yourself. Any type of a solid rest, and a sheet of cardboard/corrugated. The size you'll need depends on how far back you are going to be and which choke you are going to use. I'd recommend testing all the chokes. Just shoot the load(s) you are going to use and measure, and note the concentricity of it. With some masking tape to cover the holes, you can use the same sheet more than once but if you use a new one each time, you can write the load/choke/distance on each one and do the calculations at home later. You might find one type of ammo that doesn't pattern well. Or, you might find that one single choke is awful and the rest aren't too bad. Before I bought and started using my Benelli SBE back in '94, I had several different shotguns. One of them would shoot 7.5 shot fine, wouldn't shoot 8 shot worth a damn, and shoot 9 shot well. It had a fixed choke so really couldn't experiment much with it. I tried different ammo and to a degree, they all did the same thing. Finally, I just adjusted what I shot and stopped using 8 shot at all in that gun.

They are for sale all the time on Gunbroker. There's usually a couple going at a time. If you are patient you can find a good ratio of condition to price. There's some that have been perpetually listed on there for $2500 plus. Post-COVID, they'd need to be mint/unfired in the box If you have an account, go to advanced search, set the search words "HK Benelli Super Black Eagle". Scroll down to "Guns and Firearms", expand and choose Shotguns, then choose "Semi-auto Shotguns" and then click run. Then when the results appear, there's an option to save the search. It should ask you if you want daily emails of new items matching that description. Run advanced search again, and search "H&K Benelli Super Black Eagle", click run, and save the search again. If it doesn't ask if you want to get an email daily with the listings, click on your account, then saved searches, and there's an option there for email notifications and to include relists. I always say no to the relists options as those are generally overpriced, but I do select email on these more rare items. Here's the search for "H&K Super Black Eagle": https://www.gunbroker.com/semi-auto-shotguns/search?keywords=h%26k benelli super black eagle&sort=13&pagesize=96 Here's the search for "HK Super Black Eagle": https://www.gunbroker.com/semi-auto-shotguns/search?keywords=hk super black eagle&sort=13&pagesize=96 Good luck on your quest. This shouldn't be difficult to find, though maybe to find the right condition to price ratio sometimes takes a bit. I had been watching for a non-Super, regular "Black Eagle" in mint condition for years. One came up finally. I am sure I paid too much, but I wanted it for my Benelli Semi-Auto Shotgun collection.

Yes, you could maybe start a little higher if you wish, but generally speaking it's best to start a little lower to get people bidding. A lot of sellers, including some friends of mine, swear by the penny start auctions. I've never been that brave however on these higher dollar auctions. They say occasionally they lose money on one here and there, but as a whole, they think they do better on average. I wouldn't set a Buy it Now. Reason being is I've seen a bidding war take off and it seems like it will surpass the Buy it Now price but of course rather than doing that, someone will just hit the Buy it Now button. But, that does of course give you the possibility of it ending early if you'd really rather it end earlier. You've seen the market on eBay so you know how odd it can be, you sell 1 widget for $5, the exact same widget next week for $7, then another week for $25, then back to $5 the week after for no apparent reason. It's a fickle mistress.

I doubt it will go quite that high like things were doing during the peak of COVID, but if you aren't in need of an immediate sale, no harm in starting it there. I think it would sell for sure for $5,000 so if you are in need of an immediate sale, set it at that. Personally, I'd set it a little lower than that, with a 14 day run time and no Buy It Now option. Let the market dictate what it will bring. Sometimes bidders will get into a bidding war and things will go for well above what they're worth. I'd maybe be interested if I didn't already have one in same condition. If the money I have saved wasn't already earmarked for a SPAS-15, I'd be tempted to get a second 11711. Those SPAS-15's don't come up for sale very often at all. So, when they do, I have to be ready. 🙂 Gunbroker will give you great exposure. I buy most of my stuff there because I like odd, unusual, and rare stuff like this. The reason you can't PM the other person is because you have to have so many posts before you can. I believe it is 5 posts. So, just be active on the forum. Not implying you would, but don't post junk just to get your post count up or admins will block your account. You could start by replying to that thread you are talking about.

No issues whatsoever. I likely don't shoot this one as much as you shoot yours. My main go-to shotgun is my Super Black Eagle, as I am a hunter first and foremost, then a collector, then an occasional 3 gun shooter. So, my SBE has gotten a lot of love and use since 1994. The others, not as much.

Here's mine of HK import era, it is absolutely mint and have the box and papers for it too. Not pictured is a field stock and a 24" slug barrel too. Also a big fan of the old M3T's, the folders were only available in HK import years:

Well, it looks like the answer is... It depends. My guess is if it is a newer Montefeltro and similar time framed Ethos, then most likely. If it is an older HK era Montefeltro compared to a newer Ethos, probably not. I gauge that by looking at the schematics of both. The Ethos lists 3 different round safeties though they actually all look the same to me: This one shows they are compatible: https://www.midwestgunworks.com/page/mgwi/prod/60414 This one ONLY mentions the Ethos: https://www.midwestgunworks.com/page/mgwi/prod/60095 This one says it is only for the B.E.S.T. model, oddly it is 1/3rd the price of the other two: https://www.midwestgunworks.com/page/mgwi/prod/61387 It appears the oversized safeties are only available in the Super 90 series which is perhaps what you are referring to. However, those are often available as aftermarket as well. This is what Numrich has listed for the Super 90 series which includes the Montefeltro: Round: https://www.gunpartscorp.com/products/739660c Oversized: https://www.midwestgunworks.com/page/mgwi/prod/60597 Oversized: https://www.midwestgunworks.com/page/mgwi/prod/70001

Here's what I am pretty sure it is if it is factory Benelli; available on eBay: https://www.ebay.com/itm/285335917411 Or: https://www.ebay.com/itm/112078782149 or: https://www.ebay.com/itm/116075232762 The closest I've found that claims to be factory (from a source that I trust), but they are discontinued. These show for SBE2 and M2 performance center. If these are what you are after, at least it has the model numbers. As I mentioned, the original HK era SBE, M1 and M3 all were interchangeable regarding charging handles. Not as sure regarding the M2: https://www.midwestgunworks.com/ssearch.html?Search=benelli+charging+handle&page=2 I think this one is smaller diameter, but it looks similar: https://www.gunbroker.com/item/1082794820 Not really the same, but might suffice: https://arredondoaccessories.com/benelli-m1-bolt-handle/ This looks like it, but only made for the M4: https://gungear.ca/product/benelli-charging-handles/ Also similar but only for M4: https://battlesteel.com/benelli-m4-oversized-charging-handles/ I also found Rob Roberts charging handle to look somewhat similar. Friends of mine have used some of their products and it seemed like good stuff if you were to go with aftermarket. RxArms out of Canada is here on the forums and also makes good products but they mostly specialize in M4 as far as Benelli stuff goes. Good luck with your quest.

The bolt release button isn't factory, so I am guessing bolt handle isn't either. But, let me do some looking on Gunbroker, Numrich, Midway, Brownells, and a few others and see what I can find.

Just a thought, try tapping the charging handle forward to ensure it is fully into battery. You can do a search for "Benelli click" and you'll see a lot made about a rare problem that in my opinion has been blown way out of proportion. The trigger job would be high on my suspect list, but it sounds like it is functioning by starting the firing sequence as it should. It makes me think perhaps the spring could have broke or something is in the way blocking the firing pin mechanism itself which is in the bolt. I'd field strip the gun and take the bolt apart and check it all out for cleanliness, then the firing spring spring. If all that checks out, you can drift out the pins to the trigger pack if you can't see well enough and inspect for anything broken or pins/springs, etc not in place. In the end, if the bolt looks good and clean, I'd call them back. If they don't want to offer to look at it, make them a deal. Remind them of their Mission statement to stand behind their work. 1. You send it to them, and if they find another issue other then the previous work they have done, then you pay for the work they do. Make them document exactly what the did find. 2 If they don't want to do that, how about if they agree to pay for it if you take it somewhere else and it turns out to be the trigger and they owe nothing if that isn't the issue. 3. Get it fixed somewhere else and if they determine it is caused by the trigger job and Cole's won't stand by their work, post the report on sites like this so others know to stay away.

Be careful, it's a rabbit hole. Here's what all I ended up with... LOL If you do buy and resell with newer barrel, please note that it is the newer barrel type. You said you were aware of the need for the modified forearm requirement for the SBE2 barrels, so you'll either have to modify or replace the existing SBE1 forearm. Another option that might be a little cheaper is to get a slug barrel; particularly E.R. Shaw barrels are a little less than factory Benelli field or slug barrels so you might be able to sell it as a slug gun and not be out as much. I know the early Shaw slug barrels did not require the later/modified forearm, but they might now so double check that. You can tell by the length of the lug behind the ring that goes around the magazine tube as shown in bottom picture. In yellow, note the difference in the length of the lug, that is what changes on the SBE requiring the forearm to be modified. On the M2 barrel on the M1, there is more as there is a ring that acts as a barrel seat stop, but on the SBE it is different since the barrel is the top half of the receiver not a part that goes INTO the receiver like on the M1 and M2. Barrel ring on M2 barrel that does not exist on the M1 barrel for reference.

I have a pair of original HK era folding stock M3T's and both of them have the exact same charging handle as my other Benelli shotguns of the era (Black Eagle, Super Black Eagle, M1, Montefeltro, etc.). There might have been other types of charging handles available in that era, but all of mine came factory with that same type. Or, is the A1 the newer re-released M3? The only one of my factory Benelli's that I know came with the handle type I think you are talking about was my M4 11711.

What gauge are you considering? I have been looking at adding a 28 gauge and one big difference between the two is Ethos is a 4+1 capacity whereas SBE shows to be 2+1 capacity.

I'm curious too. Based on my research, the original part number you are probably after should be: 60180 Midwest has them in stock: https://www.midwestgunworks.com/page/mgwi/prod/60180 They are out of stock, but may have the individual parts for the "bolt rehab kit" which might be the more likely fix. It contains the extractor, firing pin spring, inertia spring. etc. https://www.midwestgunworks.com/page/mgwi/prod/ben-br-kit If you want aftermarket, FFT states theirs might work. It sure looks like my factory HK SBE: https://freedomfightertactical.com/products/60180-benelli-oem-firing-pin?_pos=1&_sid=fa7a5e8fd&_ss=r

You might want to remove your email address before the webcrawlers get a hold of it and start spamming you. Most of the gun auction sites have it. I am a fan of gunbroker.com. You can do an advanced search. At the top of the page, choose advanced search, then type your search parameters, I used Benelli M4, then choose the category (semi-auto shotguns), and then choose PA for the state. It will show a list of them for sale. I took the liberty of doing that if you want to save it. You may be able to buy them direct from some sellers if you don't have a GB account though it is handy to have. I buy most of my stuff through there but I like rare and unusual or out of production stuff. https://www.gunbroker.com/semi-auto-shotguns/search?keywords=benelli%20m4&state=pa&sort=13&pagesize=96