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...and while you are ordering from them, buy the recoil tube for $59. and your "flag stamped" will now collapse. regards - d

I used the same or similar product as well (brownells teflon moly spray.) You can buy a finish paint gun for $10 at harbor freight and a compressor for less than a $100. They also have all-in-on HVLP spray kits for $60 but a seperat compressor gives you more options I think. I used the finish on my old M14 mags and they came out very nice. You have to be careful to put on a thin (or multiple thin) coats only. Good advice CH/QuakerBoyProstaff

I would think less. I am not an expert, but I would think the majority of the M4's value would be derived from factory condition (with the exception of add-on gizmos and stuff that can be very quickly removed.) this is only my opinion.

I am sure it would affect the value. I hear good and bad things about every type of coat. The only finish I have never heard trashed was Birdsong's finish. And it is tough to get one of his.

as the bolt locks into the barrel extension, the receiver is under little stress (comparitivly.) It is not something I worry about. Although I would not use it to hammer in tent pegs.

Do a search on my posts turbo-j. I have done some extensive mods to my M4 forends.

Roger that M1014. However if you want to buy one to play with for awhile, then put in a drawer and forget about. Try brownells or Midway usa.

I would guess the loctite would be for the picatinny rails (if they are removable)

this is what I use. Works just fine. http://www.brownells.com/aspx/NS/store/ProductDetail.aspx?p=20384&title=SHOTGUN+FOLLOWERS#specs I do not see why the tefflon would not work but it may reduce mag capacity...or may not. Fourteen dollars, give it a shot and write us.

The M4 is the only Benelli I have experience with and the recoil is nominal. I can fire Rotweil MP 1oz slugs and win supreme 12pellet 00 buck one handed with no problum (holding the barrel up with one hand is not easy however). Anyway, I understand this is the case with all of Benelli's semi-autos, and therefore, unless you are planing on hanging alot of jewlery on your scattergun I would go with an M1 or M3. The gun is cheaper, the parts are cheaper and more available. And those two shotguns are considered "sporting arms" by the batfe so you can put a pistol grip and fourty round lithum powered drum mag on it if you want (and can make one). On the other hand, if you crave a M4 there is only one way to handle it (actualy 2 ways, the other is do what M1014 did and buy two of everything Benelli makes (except motercycles....I think)) regards-d

Nice work nimslow, I know it is tough working with only the tools available, but man, the personal satisfaction you get from solving a problem is the best reward. Nice looking job, and if you can do it with the speedfeed, than it can be done with other stocks.

An accurate and valid assumption, I am sure. After all what is a $200. tax compared to the price of this fine weapon.

No, I am sure it was not. Anyway, the spring recoil tube being sold by E-gunparts, is a two position model (open and close) and they deal with alot of military surplus and over stock. The factory tubes they sold in the past were the military tube that Benelli was getting rid of because they could not sell to civis. So my thinking is the two position recoil tube being sold now is also the military recoil tube that is surplus. I would think the military would not have need of a multi position tube, more to break. Only open for use, and closed for transport and storage. Just my thoughts, -d

with all respect my friend, there are four or five models, 11707, 11717, 11704, 11703, 11702 and the 11707 (1014 comenrative) with the flag on it. M4 is the internal refrence name for the shotgun, as in "M1014, the military M4" or "11717, the desert cammo M4" or "11704, the M4 entry gun" or "11703, the cali legal non collapsing stock M4" My thoughts were the original post was from a person interested in replicating a military joint comand combat shotgun with their civillian model. It is very common knowledge that the civillian 1014 does not have a collapseable stock - so I would not think that a member here would post such a question. Oh and the gentelman asked "Does anyone know if the M1014 used my the military has a two or three position stock?" and the title of the thread was "USMC M1014 stock 2 or 3 position?" I interpreted USMC M1014 as the JCCS used by the marines. And the civi copy was called the 1014, not the M1014, that is not permitted . This is why we have the M16 and the AR15, the M4 and the AR15 carbine, the M9 and the beretta 92fs. Etc, Etc... anyway it is all nice to see different veiwpoints expresed here. It is a great thing about this country. regards -d

I would think there is probably some of that green witches brew thread lock on it. Try unscrewing it (I would use very, very well padded channel locks or vice grips on the flat milled side of the tube) If that does not work, heat it up with a heatgun. Post what you find. regards -d

I think you may have misunderstood the question GunCrazyD, bmmc was referring to the military M1014, the true joint combat shotgun. This does have a collapseable stock (and is unavailable to mortals). There is also a "commemritve 1014" or something like that, that was marketed as a civilian shotgun, but I do not think this post is in referance to that model.

you may wish to check out these recoil springs. If it is brand new, I would clean the heck out of it and shoot the heck out of it a couple times, then call Benelli C.S. if you want to play with it yourself look at this stuff; http://www.e-gunparts.com/product.asp?chrProductSKU=740470A&MC= http://www.e-gunparts.com/product.asp?chrProductSKU=740460&MC= http://www.e-gunparts.com/product.asp?chrProductSKU=741880&MC= http://www.brownells.com/aspx/NS/store/ProductDetail.aspx?p=6247&title=RECOIL+SPRING%2c+HEAVY&s=15372#specs http://www.brownells.com/aspx/NS/store/ProductDetail.aspx?p=6248&title=RECOIL+SPRING%2c+STANDARD%2c+AFTER+S%2fN+M293830&s=15373#15373 http://www.brownells.com/aspx/NS/store/ProductDetail.aspx?p=6241&title=RECOIL+SPRING+TUBE%2c+AFTER+S%2fN+M155400&s=15366#15366 If it is a factory 14" I think I would send it in, drag I know but your safest bet.

http://www.e-gunparts.com/DisplayAd.asp?chrProductSKU=983200&chrSuperSKU=&MC= $99.-- This is the two position (all open/all close) But at this price you can mod it yourself, the notches can be done with a dremel and stone.

aw... shucks.

Thank you Liberty or death Jr., I do still have some punch and trim to do on it. Always easier to remove material than repace it. HDRDKG - Call SF I think they are in the final production stages, I had one ordered but I was not happy with it's appearence, I felt the rails protruded too much and I did not like the nylon trim piece at the top.

http://www.e-gunparts.com/DisplayAd.asp?chrProductSKU=981490&chrSuperSKU=&MC= $99

Thank you pdw4137, yes it is just the polymer grip. The pictures do not give an accurate representation, the lighting highlights all the differences in color. With the nautral eye the foregrip looks quite uniform and nice. If one was looking toward the muzzel at a distance of a few yards, I do not think there would be disparagaing remarks what so ever. regards -d.

I would try pulling the spring a little to stretch it, perhapse a pinch of graphite behind the follower then shaken out. The long tube spring has much more power but decresses tube capacity to five.

No need to apologize sir, we all have different values.

I would try running a hundred full power shell through it, it took mine a little while to loosen up. Still tempermental? send 'er back. -d