Duggan

Great insight. I had heard of some of these issues of which you speak ... people complain that the 50 beowulf and 6.5 grendel are great rounds, but that AA has too tight of a grip on their production and as such they will never make it mainstream as the 6.8 SPC and .458 SOCOM have. It's good to know that his desire to control the production of his creations comes out of legitimate concern for top tier quality. I've long wanted a 6.5 upper ... LaRue said he is working on getting 6.5 stealth uppers approved, if that goes through I will likely get one ... Ion Bonded LW50 stainless polygonal rifled 6.5 Grendel barrel? Yes please. People will always hate what they can't have this instant and will always want something for nothing ... that doesn't mean anyone has an obligation to give it to them.

Well, it depends what type of facility / structure you have available. Any type of room clearing course, where the range varies from point blank to a bit out, would stress fundamentals and motor skills. Enough targets to make hot reloading a necessity, and perhaps some targets far enough out that hot swapping a single slug round or multiple slug rounds on the fly would become needed. Having an ammo carrier and 2 different types of shells in distinctly different carriers / locations would make this type of scenario analysis easier, I would think. Clear rooms and targets with buckshot, when you get to a window and see targets at longer ranges, consider swapping slugs to increase your engagement range. I know Magpul offers a shotgun course ... a few guys Ive talked to have taken it, and liked it.

Congrats, please lube the rails, bolt carrier and interior recoil tube up prior to shooting, and break it in with some stronger ammo. I hope she is flawless for you.

The limited magazine capacity and relatively slow reload time, coupled with the shotguns limited range and accuracy make it less than optimal for the type of sustained pinpoint shooting encounter you find in IDPA type scenarios ... this probably is a major reason shotguns are not as popular for practical shooting sports.

I've never noticed my fingers getting torn up by the GG&G pad.

REPR's are said to be nice. I hope you enjoy it.

Have fun with all that.

Enjoy, it's a he_ll of a weapon.

I bet that you keep a single point sling on your gun for about 15 minutes after you realize how awful it is. Every been hit in the nuts by a 12 lb gun? It's tons of fun. Single points work for smaller, lighter guns. Heavy guns needs the stability of two points. You're obviously free to do whatever you want, but you'll save some money if you listen to everyone here who has told you from experience that it's an awful idea.

Yep. Sure looks it. It's like the VORTEX INTAKE ADDONS that claim to add UP TO 15 HP by increasing the air velocity, but 10x worse. Lumen ratings are perhaps the most abused and inaccurate "scientific metric" ever created. It's turned into a pure marketing ploy, where the claimed number of lumens has absolutely no bearing on the true OTF lumens. Surefire claimed 120 lumens for ages on LEDs that put out 180-220 lumens ... and every cheap light you find claims 500+ lumens and really puts out ~150. What a joke.

There is no way in **** that is even half of the claimed lumens.

The MS2 sling kinda sucks and will not be well suited for a large heavy weapon like the benelli m4. I say this as a guy who has bought and used just about every product magpul has ever sold ... including 10 of the MS2 / ASAP plates that I resold. The MS2 is very flexible material ... too flexible. It's pretty much akin to a nylon ribbon, as opposed to a thick flat ropelike consistency like most other slings. This means that it gets bunched up if you try and do the thing he does in the demo, and it just plain doesn't work as well as he makes it look. Lots of people have this complaint ... which is one reason why the MS3 sling is said to be made of significantly thicker materical. Also, you don't want a one point on an m4 ... just trust us on that one. The VCAS stevenb linked above looks much more suited to M4 use, as it's much thicker and robust. I will consider one if / when the urbino comes out.

If your choke is coming loose, it's not tight enough. I would not use loctite.

Skip the sling. Get a full length tube. Seriously.

M&Ps have been out for ages. My next gun will be an M&P 45c, no external or mag safety.

Buy whichever one "feels" better to you. Shotgun powder burns quite quickly, so you won't be getting much (if any) extra velocity from the 2 inches. If the increased forward weight or the longer sight radius make it "feel" better to you, that's what matters. Either gun will function equally well ... it's about ergonomics for you.

Excellent.

Anyone I see that's in AFG using an m4 with a cstock has it fully collapsed. As I said, wearing a ton of stuff makes the already ridiculous long stock even longer, to the point where a shorter stock isn't a luxury, it's a necessity.

Yea, I bet you are "needncash" after you spent $565 on a slightly modified Pelican case ... god damn bro. The collapsible stock is also essential when you are wearing plates and a chest rig, as those obviously add a few inches of pull, and using the long as all heck fixed stock on top of 2 inches of cordura and boron carbide plates would make it extremely uncomfortable.

It's a 500A, wrong brand silly. An 870 would be an upgrade.

Nice $2000 paperweight.

When they start enforcing it, I'll start worrying about it. Until then, it's obvious what 922r is ... an unenforceable law, written by people who know nothing about guns, meant to restrict guns based on features they deem cosmetically undesirable ... and it works in keeping 95% of gun owners scared into compliance. That said, I believe my M4 at the moment actually is in 922r compliance ... if it wasn't, I wouldn't bat an eye, and neither would the ATF unless you gave them specific reason to do so, ie you shoot up a school and they are looking to throw the book at you, so they research every charge possible.

Tooling being completed does not equal stocks shipping out the door.

The cheek weld with the collapsible stock sucks. As far as reasons to have one? Shorter length of pull, novelty, looking cool, adaptability. When I had one I ran it on the middle setting all the time, and I liked it. That said, the 2 reasons not to have one is the $800 that can be put to much better use, and the fact that the fixed stock is more solid and has a better feel to it. I agree, the length of pull is long ... that's why if Mesa doesn't release their Urbino this summer, I'm going to cut down my fixed stock a few inches so that it is near the length of a collapsible on the middle position. Yes, the 11707 will take one and collapse just fine.