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Huh... could have sworn it had 9 days + left on it. Didn't need it... just like to watch what happens with those "no reserve - 0.01" auctions. Cheers, C

Hmmmm... no reserve huh? Should be interesting to watch. Cheers, C

But hey... those staged photos sure look cool for the purposes of the article. I suspect those are "stock photos" that the author pulled from a file. This is the tip that the author is more concerned about what looks good than what is accurate: "On guard: Two RAF men show off their sniper rifles as the their helicopter hovers over London as part of the Olympic security effort" Cheers, C

Talking about cast? Not familiar with the Vinci... but I believe there is a left hand shim kit? Doesn't Benelli sell a left-hand Vinci... so lefties don't have to buy the shim kit separately? Cheers, C

Other than a Burris Speedbead, they all sit too high for the stock buttstock. Mesa Tactical put an adjustable cheekpiece on their Urbino stock solely for the purposes of using a typical 1913 rail mounted optic. Downside is your head will be too high up for the iron sights without readjusting the cheekpiece. [ATTACH=CONFIG]1554[/ATTACH] Cheers, C

The bolt heads on my M2T and M2 Field look about the same. Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but... I believe the bolts are forged and that particular surface is "as forged", so it's not as finished looking as the rest of the bolt. See some of the surfaces on the bolt carrier? If they were plated, they'd look about the same as the cams. Cheers, C

I'm guessing it will be less or, at worst, the same price. Can you remove your stock easily, or is it a difficult affair? Thanks, C

I'm mostly interested in the possibility of the same stock for an M2, and there are no real issues with the Urbino for that model. I actually prefer a straight stock over a PG, but for me, the shorter LOP was main the selling point. I've read the threads regarding the fitment issue M4 owners have had with the Urbino, and although they don't seem insurmountable, perhaps they will address the "Urbino 1.0" problems that owners have been having with this stock. Oddly, after looking for comments on the Mesa forums... I can't find much other than the fouling trigger group and pistol grip shape complaint. The one thing I did find was this, which is a quote from this thread by Mitch at MT. "The Urbino Tactical stock installs from the rear, like a traditional stock. There's a bolt and a washer. With the factory stock, the bolt or stud is glued to a nut so that the stock unscrews. With the factory stock, you can remove the stock without tools. With the Urbino Tactical stock, you need a screwdriver, as with any other stock. Someday if, say, the military asked for it, we might mold a pocket in the rear mount boss to accept a nut that we can glue to a bolt or stud so the Urbino Tactical stock can be installed and removed in the same manner, but at this point it's not even on our radar." Would you care to comment? Regards, C

Poking around over at Mesa Tactical this AM and Mitch has this posted... a prototype Urbino straight stock. [ATTACH=CONFIG]1552[/ATTACH][ATTACH=CONFIG]1551[/ATTACH]

Not to put too fine a point on it, but there are plenty of sling makers that use a 1" attachment point... which then steps up to 1.25 and/or 1.50. Specter Gear for one, comes to mind. Cheers, C

So many things I want to say... You ah... have quite an investment there, 'Busa. Cheers, C

Just thinking out-loud here... I've seen photos where people have adapted pistol grips from various assault rifles to other, not pistol grip equipped, guns. The most popular grip adaptations seem to be from FN FAL, AK47 and AR15. Cheers, C

I just traded off my M2T PG stock, otherwise I'd let you borrow it to see if it's adaptable. Short of that, or making something from scratch, you might be hosed. Best of luck figuring it out, C

Too bad for BWood... thanks for the info truckcop. I've never handled a 20 M1 in person, so it was a guess on my part. Sure does limit what you can do to a 20 don't it. Cheers, C

Look at your owners manual parts listing. The variations between 20 and 12 shouldn't extend to the stock. The receiver may have two different part numbers to accommodate a bolt carrier variation... but even that may be the same. Cheers, C

Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but the gauge isn't relevant on an M1/M2... the receivers are the same-o same-o. If this is the case, then the OEM PG stock for an M1/M2 tactical would fit. To extend that thought, the Mesa Tactical Urbino stock would fit as well. Cheers, C

tucker301 has it about right... a bit less, a bit more. A good refinish shop will produce a finished product that looks new to better than new. Duracoat is, perhaps one of the most popular DIY and shop refinishes. Gun Kote is another... much older product, and Cerakote. Check them all out. Again, if you're a DIY kinda guy, and you have multiple projects now and in the future, an investment in a media blaster and a few Duracoat kits will save you some money, provide a nice sense of accomplishment... and a first class refinish job. Cheers, C

PM sent. Cheers, C

Scratches in the finish, or scratches in the metal? If it's a DIY project, the former requires light sanding to blend, and a spray-N-bake refinish... the later requires a lot more sanding. The easiest way is to take it to someone who will glassbead the barrel and refinish it... chances are, it will look the best too. Actually, if this is a common occurrence with you, you can buy a cheapo DIY abrasive blast kit from Harbor Freight for around $60 and up. Cheers, C

Try Briley.

Forgot to mention... if you fit a Nordic plus 5 tube to the 11026 (21" barrel)... it's damn near flush to the barrel and gives you 8+1 capacity. Don't forget the Nordic clamp. Cheers, C

Try starting with a model 11026... and add the bits as you need. If your mechanical, you can do all (or as much as you want) of it yourself. Cheers, C

I've got one on order, as a safe queen investment only, thru my local dealer... who has it on order from both their primary and secondary Benelli distributors. Hundreds (thousands?) of folks have been building virtually identical guns using Nordic accessories and C-Rums mods for several years now... so at least Benelli is offering a production version of a known competitive gun. Upside is saving about $700... down side is you don't get the cool factory 3 Gun logo. Cheers, C

If the stock LOP fits you well and it's comfortable to shot for the time frames, clothing, gear and loads you most frequent... then there's little advantage. At 5'10"/165 lbs; I personally find the Urbino stock to be well worth the money on my M2T. The Limbsaver pad, the fatter, more square-backed grip (which I didn't think I'd like at all) that seems to distribute recoil to my hand better than the stocker... and the cheekweld/sight picture all suit me to a tee. I'd bet that if you ask around in your location, you can find someone with an Urbino stocked gun that would let you, at least, shoulder the gun, and perhaps fire it. I've been approached on three separate occasions via e-mail, and too many times to count at local ranges. I suspect my gun has been responsible for more than a few Urbino sales. Cheers, C

Interesting... and a long, contentious thread. Sorry... although I imagine it won't hurt anything, there's no element of common usage or proof that RTV is a good, reliable idea for a clamp surface on a shotgun. I've got 40 years of experiance as a MC mechanic and have gone thru a few hundred tubes of all types of silicone sealant... so I know what it's capable of, and not so capable of. I suggest that if you do give it a try, you use a high temperature variety of silicone, and that you allow it to cure for at least 24 hours from "clamp-up". Report back after a few thousand rounds... I'd genuinely be interested to hear what happens. Cheers, C